Porsche 911 or Jaguar F-Type?

TN.Z · 07-29-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I dunno about BMW even coming close to the 911 or F type. That's like apples to orangea

Notice he is referring to Base models. That's a supercharged 3.0l v6 putting out 340 hp and 332 torque vs. and M4 using a turbo inline 6 putting out 425 hp and 405 ft/lbs of torque for just a little higher price point.

In all honesty I think the M4 and the F Type are direct competitors. The apples to oranges comparison is the F Type and a 911 which are very incomparable due to crazy different drivetrain layouts and a massive price difference.

BlackZeda · 07-29-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Spending this much money. It's really NOT an easy choice. The 911 iconic performance and heritage sells this car fast.
But the Jaguar, IMHO, seems to have fun factor at a much higher scale. Only because of the addictive v8 exhaust note and Jaguars first "raw" sports car in decades. Torque wins in most cases but, the 911 makes a compelling argument in track focused handling.
But why not get the GT-S? That's the one on my list. Lava Orange please? Lol

I just saw a grey metallic GT-S on the way home, and as I suspected it looks pretty awesome in the flesh (metal). It still is bratwurst-like, but in a flat, sexy way.

BlackZeda · 07-30-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

They are kind of hard to compare, as they serve totally different purposes, but I think I would give both a solid 9 for right now. The Z, as a track only car, really could use 1 to 200 more horsepower, so I can play with the big boys a little easier. Other than that, I just love the way it communicates with me.

The 911 is only a 9 because the seats aren't real comfortable. Its something I didn't notice on the test drive, but living with it has been a bit of a pain in my back, literally. I have the base seats and they are narrow at top, and my shoulder blades are the exact same width as the seat frame, so it digs into me.

However, I just ordered a pair of Recaro Sportster CS, which is pretty much the same seat as in the new nismo Z, which I love, so once I get them installed, it will be a 10.

Hmmm, my guess at your answer would have been the Z a 6 and the 911 a 10, but like you said it is a Z racecar. Last summer I was seriously looking at trading my Z in for either a M4 or a Corvette and after test driving them I asked myself, "will I have more fun" in either of them. The M4; I am not so sure. I would miss go-cart feeling and looks of the Z. The Corvette...probably more fun, but maybe a lot more frustration when driving in traffic. So I decided to instead throw some money at the Z and keep it since it is paid off and I have been very happy with the decision. I will instead of spending the money on a 4x4 of some sort for camping and more outdoorsy things.

So far, just the addition of the performance clutch/flywheel and the reduction of the unsprung mass by the custom wheels and lightweight rotors has suprisingly ratcheted up the fun factor by a few, significant degrees. In a few weeks I will be laying the groundwork for more power, so hopefully that satiates my appetiate for performance for the time being.

With a Porsche or Corvette I would get all of what I am doing to the Z "out-of-the-box". Here in Colorado I see as many GT-Rs as Zs on the road it seems, but Porsches and Corvettes are very common. So the Z has that rare factor here. I like them all!

Thanks for the response!

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-30-2015, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z

Notice he is referring to Base models. That's a supercharged 3.0l v6 putting out 340 hp and 332 torque vs. and M4 using a turbo inline 6 putting out 425 hp and 405 ft/lbs of torque for just a little higher price point.

In all honesty I think the M4 and the F Type are direct competitors. The apples to oranges comparison is the F Type and a 911 which are very incomparable due to crazy different drivetrain layouts and a massive price difference.

I think neither cars truly compete...

The M4 is FR 2+2
COMPETITOR Lexus RC/Maserati GC

The F type is a 2 seat FR/FAWD
COMPETITOR. MB AMG GTS/AUDI R8

AND THE 911 is a 2+2 seat RR COMPETITOR NO 1. lol

When I compare. I compare performance and price range. Not just price range, cuz that's not truly being competitive.

TN.Z · 07-30-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I think neither cars truly compete...

The M4 is FR 2+2

COMPETITOR Lexus RC/Maserati GC

The F type is a 2 seat FR/FAWD

COMPETITOR. MB AMG GTS/AUDI R8

AND THE 911 is a 2+2 seat RR COMPETITOR NO 1. lol

When I compare. I compare performance and price range. Not just price range, cuz that's not truly being competitive.

You are still obviously comparing the F Type R, there is no way a base 340 hp base model F Type is competing with a MB GTS. In the top R trim sure you are spot on but comparing a base F Type to a MB GTS or an R8 is comparing a sports car to a super car.

A BASE F Type performs on the level of a Nismo Z and it weighs more. There is no way I would compare it to super cars.

The F Type R with that beastly 500 HP v8 is a different story all together, but the OP wasn't asking about the F Type R, just the base model.

Z-Girl 12 · 07-30-2015, 03:23 PM

911

indyn · 07-31-2015, 09:21 AM

Drove the F-type S roadster version, exterior and looks are really nice, interior is well laid out and hot.

It got a nice rumble upon start, has an extra button to make the exhaust louder and burble quite a bit. Nice power to get you quickly upto 100 km.h, and thats where the fun kinda ends. Beyond this it seems to have little hard time going up, as if parking brake is on, trust me its not. The exhaust gets really loud, and this is factory, but the speed is gradually going up but not fast enough. I tried different modes but still same. There is a dynamic mode, apparently I can tune things, will try that soon.
Handling is not bad but not the greatest, I expected it take corners really easy but felt heavy a bit.
I give it thumbs up for the looks, exhaust rumble and interior and it ends there. Oh, u get lot of thumbs up from ladies.
If you're ok with all this then get F type otherwise 911.

DCNISMO · 07-31-2015, 12:12 PM

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If you're ok with all this then get F type otherwise 911.

Actually, informed ladies like the 911 too! Thats not why I got mine, but there are some out there that actually know cars and give me compliments on it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-31-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by indyn

Drove the F-type S roadster version, exterior and looks are really nice, interior is well laid out and hot.

It got a nice rumble upon start, has an extra button to make the exhaust louder and burble quite a bit. Nice power to get you quickly upto 100 km.h, and thats where the fun kinda ends. Beyond this it seems to have little hard time going up, as if parking brake is on, trust me its not. The exhaust gets really loud, and this is factory, but the speed is gradually going up but not fast enough. I tried different modes but still same. There is a dynamic mode, apparently I can tune things, will try that soon.
Handling is not bad but not the greatest, I expected it take corners really easy but felt heavy a bit.
I give it thumbs up for the looks, exhaust rumble and interior and it ends there. Oh, u get lot of thumbs up from ladies.
If you're ok with all this then get F type otherwise 911.

How much it weighs

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-31-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z

You are still obviously comparing the F Type R, there is no way a base 340 hp base model F Type is competing with a MB GTS. In the top R trim sure you are spot on but comparing a base F Type to a MB GTS or an R8 is comparing a sports car to a super car.

A BASE F Type performs on the level of a Nismo Z and it weighs more. There is no way I would compare it to super cars.

The F Type R with that beastly 500 HP v8 is a different story all together, but the OP wasn't asking about the F Type R, just the base model.

In that price range. Alfa and lotus make better arguments

TN.Z · 07-31-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In that price range. Alfa and lotus make better arguments

Now those are some choices op should look at! Lotus makes great cars, except I have never heard much on reliability. Alfa's unfortunately have not been doing to great in the reliability categories in JD Power polls last I saw.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-01-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z

Now those are some choices op should look at! Lotus makes great cars, except I have never heard much on reliability. Alfa's unfortunately have not been doing to great in the reliability categories in JD Power polls last I saw.

As far as motors... They have Camry engines. So that's good. Not sure how good transmission, body integrity and suspension are in terms of reliability??:

Chuck33079 · 08-01-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

As far as motors... They have Camry engines. So that's good. Not sure how good transmission, body integrity and suspension are in terms of reliability??:

There's a reason people say Lotus stands for "lots of trouble, usually serious ".

Exhaust · 11-03-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

There's a reason people say Lotus stands for "lots of trouble, usually serious ".

The main reason I avoided comparing the lotus was simpye because of the clamshell replacements, and the spec I wanted was out of price range.

DLSTR · 11-03-2015, 02:25 PM

Evora is a good car. The manual gearbox cars need the motor dropped to do the clutch. Thats about 2500+ at the dealer. How often do you do that? Not very unless you are a bad manual driver. Overall those cars are sound.
Id go 911 compared to the Jag. I like the Jag but they suffer horrendous depreciation vs the 911. Quality wise Porsche is doing well. Looks wise the Jag is superb. Performance and braking etc. Go 911. They are both nice and will make any buyer pleased.

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indyn Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: farr north Posts: 241 Drives: 11 BMW 335i 6AT Rep Power: 14	Drove the F-type S roadster version, exterior and looks are really nice, interior is well laid out and hot. It got a nice rumble upon start, has an extra button to make the exhaust louder and burble quite a bit. Nice power to get you quickly upto 100 km.h, and thats where the fun kinda ends. Beyond this it seems to have little hard time going up, as if parking brake is on, trust me its not. The exhaust gets really loud, and this is factory, but the speed is gradually going up but not fast enough. I tried different modes but still same. There is a dynamic mode, apparently I can tune things, will try that soon. Handling is not bad but not the greatest, I expected it take corners really easy but felt heavy a bit. I give it thumbs up for the looks, exhaust rumble and interior and it ends there. Oh, u get lot of thumbs up from ladies. If you're ok with all this then get F type otherwise 911. BlackZeda likes this.

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DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Evora is a good car. The manual gearbox cars need the motor dropped to do the clutch. Thats about 2500+ at the dealer. How often do you do that? Not very unless you are a bad manual driver. Overall those cars are sound. Id go 911 compared to the Jag. I like the Jag but they suffer horrendous depreciation vs the 911. Quality wise Porsche is doing well. Looks wise the Jag is superb. Performance and braking etc. Go 911. They are both nice and will make any buyer pleased.