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I remember when the 370 was finally unveiled way back when. The 350 owners all hated the boomerang headlights and tail lights. I distinctly remember someone posting on the 350z

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Old 06-16-2020, 11:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I remember when the 370 was finally unveiled way back when. The 350 owners all hated the boomerang headlights and tail lights. I distinctly remember someone posting on the 350z forum "Well boys, looks like our cars all went up in value."

Nissan hasn't even shown off the z35 fully yet and people are complaining

I'm willing to wait and see. As much as I love my 370, I'm looking forward to more horsepower and the rest of the goodies.
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I remember when the 370 was finally unveiled way back when. The 350 owners all hated the boomerang headlights and tail lights. I distinctly remember someone posting on the 350z forum "Well boys, looks like our cars all went up in value."

Nissan hasn't even shown off the z35 fully yet and people are complaining

I'm willing to wait and see. As much as I love my 370, I'm looking forward to more horsepower and the rest of the goodies.
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I remember when the 370 was finally unveiled way back when. The 350 owners all hated the boomerang headlights and tail lights. I distinctly remember someone posting on the 350z forum "Well boys, looks like our cars all went up in value."

Nissan hasn't even shown off the z35 fully yet and people are complaining

I'm willing to wait and see. As much as I love my 370, I'm looking forward to more horsepower and the rest of the goodies.
Not me, I saw the 370z at the auto show and fell in love instantly. I liked the 350z but then when I saw the 370z I thought man the 350z looks way too tame now and like a “cute” girl car. I’m curious to see what the 400z becomes. I know it’s supposed to be influenced off the 240 but I really hope they don’t go too heavy on the retro revive thing as all the cars that have done that look dated very quickly (mustang etc) and if it looses the gorgeous coke bottle figure the 370z has then I’ll be really sad.
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Not me, I saw the 370z at the auto show and fell in love instantly. I liked the 350z but then when I saw the 370z I thought man the 350z looks way too tame now and like a “cute” girl car. I’m curious to see what the 400z becomes. I know it’s supposed to be influenced off the 240 but I really hope they don’t go too heavy on the retro revive thing as all the cars that have done that look dated very quickly (mustang etc) and if it looses the gorgeous coke bottle figure the 370z has then I’ll be really sad.
I really liked the 370Z for being an incremental upgrade. It's a little ironic as we also understand Nissan's questionable build quality and of course the consequential neglect over the CSC and oil cooling of this car.

But lighter, shorter, wider, more power, higher redline at the time the rev match was sliced bread, a little more of the fastback proportions, small things like relocating the rear body brace. I see how some people hate the redundancies, like carryover interior parts, but I thought the "tweak" approach was a proper way to continue a sports car line.

And I kinda hope the next Z is like that. Give me a better/modern interior, a little more power, hopefully a little less weight, try to keep it reliable and don't go to the moon in features.
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I really liked the 370Z for being an incremental upgrade. It's a little ironic as we also understand Nissan's questionable build quality and of course the consequential neglect over the CSC and oil cooling of this car.

But lighter, shorter, wider, more power, higher redline at the time the rev match was sliced bread, a little more of the fastback proportions, small things like relocating the rear body brace. I see how some people hate the redundancies, like carryover interior parts, but I thought the "tweak" approach was a proper way to continue a sports car line.

And I kinda hope the next Z is like that. Give me a better/modern interior, a little more power, hopefully a little less weight, try to keep it reliable and don't go to the moon in features.
I agree completely.

The thing is they have to compete with the muscle cars in the segment. People WILL cross shop those. Because they're good looking cars, with good performance, and a cool factor at a similar price point. Those cars can also handle these days. In theory the buyers should be very different from each other but they aren't. It's clear that's where the money is.

I imagine a good looking twin-turbo 6 with 400hp at around 3450lbs with modern tech at around a 40k price point could actually be competitive with the muscle cars sales wise.

I doubt they go the "cheaper cayman" route. Lighter, higher revving, NA, etc.
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The profile of the car is more elongated. The bulkiness of the 370 does not exist in this new car. The hood is longer. I don't see the overall similarity of shape. I see hints but it looks like a different car to me.
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I said this two years ago, maybe longer... What they are doing is the equivalent of taking a Vietnam era cobra helicopter and updating it with newer tech and power, then call it a super cobra. You can save costs this way instead of designing a whole new air frame that works. The chassis works on the 370Z, save cost and revise what you have. It'll still be a great car, especially if it is an improvement of the great car we already have. Why not?
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I said this two years ago, maybe longer... What they are doing is the equivalent of taking a Vietnam era cobra helicopter and updating it with newer tech and power, then call it a super cobra. You can save costs this way instead of designing a whole new air frame that works. The chassis works on the 370Z, save cost and revise what you have. It'll still be a great car, especially if it is an improvement of the great car we already have. Why not?
Exactly! All the Z needs is the 400hp V6 twin turbo from the Q50/Q60 Red Sport, upgrade the chassis, improve the manual and automatic transmissions, hopefully upgrade the differential, and put in a Maxima-like interior. The only safety feature that I would like to see is blind spot monitoring, LOL.
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Its prolly gonna have to be 55k, at least as an msrp. I can see a nismo being subsidized down to $51k. But only cuz of the competition. Remember, you still will have a 400ho Z at under 40k. Its more hp than the supra for 10k less. But nissan has to sell the nismo higher. Rumor has it a nismo could be between 450 n 500 hp? So that may be an incentive if rumor pulls true?
The c8 and Z comparison isn't the best comparison cuz its attracting 2 sides of the enthusiast world.
Price comparison does have some legitimacy. But having a Supra n Z out is like having a mustang n camaro. A lot of people will be in it for that 90's heritage. If mazda does an rx or whatever with that inline 6. Its gonna be JDM wars all over again. And I think a lot of guys between 35 n 55 are looking for a JDM WAR 2.

The next gen GTR, 86 and wax all coming soon too. Japan may have a small comeback.

The corvette has no price competition. It battles cars above its weight class. And there will be a market for those guys too.

The real question is... can these cars bring the culture back? Or these beta male soy boy pansies are gonna destroy the culture with hybrids n EV's? Im just glad sports cars aren't dead... yet!!!
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Its prolly gonna have to be 55k, at least as an msrp. I can see a nismo being subsidized down to $51k. But only cuz of the competition. Remember, you still will have a 400ho Z at under 40k. Its more hp than the supra for 10k less. But nissan has to sell the nismo higher. Rumor has it a nismo could be between 450 n 500 hp? So that may be an incentive if rumor pulls true?

The c8 and Z comparison isn't the best comparison cuz its attracting 2 sides of the enthusiast world.

Price comparison does have some legitimacy. But having a Supra n Z out is like having a mustang n camaro. A lot of people will be in it for that 90's heritage. If mazda does an rx or whatever with that inline 6. Its gonna be JDM wars all over again. And I think a lot of guys between 35 n 55 are looking for a JDM WAR 2.



The next gen GTR, 86 and wax all coming soon too. Japan may have a small comeback.



The corvette has no price competition. It battles cars above its weight class. And there will be a market for those guys too.



The real question is... can these cars bring the culture back? Or these beta male soy boy pansies are gonna destroy the culture with hybrids n EV's? Im just glad sports cars aren't dead... yet!!!
55k. It's a nissan. Nissan is already having money issues. Hell the gtr is way over priced.
That's one of many problems Nissan's having. And QC too.
Nismo Z maybe. But that's pushing it imo.
They need to have the 4cyn Z in the 20+k for sure and than go up from there.
But we shall c. They hve to price it right but they need to step up on the QC too.

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55k. It's a nissan. Nissan is already having money issues. Hell the gtr is way over priced.
That's one of many problems Nissan's having. And QC too.
Nismo Z maybe. But that's pushing it imo.
They need to have the 4cyn Z in the 20+k for sure and than go up from there.
But we shall c. They hve to price it right but they need to step up on the QC too.

I'll be in my bunk!

Toyota is apparently going to want $40K for the new 4-cylinder turbo 255 HP Supra model, which even comes with cheap brakes. No way Nissan will price a Z in the $20's for a car that is made in Japan. Start around $29,995 might be doable if they do come out with a less powered version.
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