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280driver 10-24-2017 08:30 PM

Now that’s interesting. Hard to make much out though.

Zingston 10-24-2017 09:16 PM

Looks like a lot of buzz over the Nissan IMx electric autonomous vehicle in Tokyo. Perhaps that's the secret reveal nissan has been suggesting and not the new Z?

xfrgtr 10-25-2017 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3702564)
Looks like a lot of buzz over the Nissan IMx electric autonomous vehicle in Tokyo. Perhaps that's the secret reveal nissan has been suggesting and not the new Z?

Yes
Nissan IMx is a self-driving electric SUV concept

danegrey 10-25-2017 07:36 AM

or maybe it is this
Formula E Racing News - Nissan to join Formula E from 2018-19

RicerX 10-25-2017 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwissCheese (Post 3702531)
I don't know, maybe they hid a Z concept right under our noses!

https://i.imgur.com/it6Rq0N.jpg

Nismo leaf.

Cyber370 10-25-2017 12:17 PM

Well there you have it! I think that sports cars in general are a dying breed as far as the Japanese auto industry is concerned. Even if a new Z is ever released, it will most definitely have some sort of electric/hybrid motor(s). It looks like Nissan is not backing down from their electrification goals. It's become a plague that will be shoved down everyone's throats, like it or not.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2017-tokyo-...ted-1819827880

littlejuanito 10-25-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3702678)
Well there you have it! I think that sports cars in general are a dying breed as far as the Japanese auto industry is concerned. Even if a new Z is ever released, it will most definitely have some sort of electric/hybrid motor(s). It looks like Nissan is not backing down from their electrification goals. It's become a plague that will be shoved down everyone's throats, like it or not.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2017-tokyo-...ted-1819827880

Official... No Z35!

TN.Z 10-25-2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3702690)
Official... No Z35!



Also official, no Supra, and no rotary Mazda.

carlitos_370z 10-25-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3702678)
Well there you have it! I think that sports cars in general are a dying breed as far as the Japanese auto industry is concerned. Even if a new Z is ever released, it will most definitely have some sort of electric/hybrid motor(s). It looks like Nissan is not backing down from their electrification goals. It's become a plague that will be shoved down everyone's throats, like it or not.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2017-tokyo-...ted-1819827880

:wtf: :facepalm:

Dirk McGurck 10-25-2017 01:23 PM

Well, that saves me some money for another year.

Gianni 10-25-2017 02:13 PM

This is all moving to fast for me. Like how can you change to electric vehicles so fast?! It gives me anxiety. Rest In Peace gas engines. Rest In Peace my love and passion for Nissan. I'm still keeping my z34 forever. 60k miles on my 2012 and still very strong.

Rusty 10-25-2017 02:15 PM

What worries me is that this next generation of kids growing up are more interested in computer games and such then cars. No new car enthusiasts to replace us old farts. Believe the Japanese are the first to notice this. So they will only make cars they think that will sell. Basic people movers. The kids don't have a clue on what they are missing out on. :shakes head:

Rusty 10-25-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gianni (Post 3702725)
This is all moving to fast for me. Like how can you change to electric vehicles so fast?! It gives me anxiety. Rest In Peace gas engines. Rest In Peace my love and passion for Nissan. I'm still keeping my z34 forever. 60k miles on my 2012 and still very strong.

Only a few places I've been have plugs for electric cars right now. By 2025, you will see more of them. By 2030, they should be very common. If you are using a public charging station. It will take about 9hrs for a full charge for a Tesla, and cost about 8 cent per mile. Oh........there will be push back on the electric car. Because of cost of the cars, range, and the time it takes to recharge. Just wait until people see the cost of a replacement battery! It's about 1/2 the cost of the car. :eek:

Chuck33079 10-25-2017 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702738)
Only a few places I've been have plugs for electric cars right now. By 2025, you will see more of them. By 2030, they should be very common. If you are using a public charging station. It will take about 9hrs for a full charge for a Tesla, and cost about 8 cent per mile. Oh........there will be push back on the electric car. Because of cost of the cars, range, and the time it takes to recharge. Just wait until people see the cost of a replacement battery! It's about 1/2 the cost of the car. :eek:

Not to mention that disposal of the batteries is terrible for the environment. The environment that you're supposed to be saving by using a car that runs on electricity generated by coal, stored in batteries using heavy metals from strip mining. It's almost like people don't want to consider that their hippy golf cart is likely worse for the environment than a full size pickup once you factor in all the parts of the equation.

Rusty 10-25-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3702743)
Not to mention that disposal of the batteries is terrible for the environment. The environment that you're supposed to be saving by using a car that runs on electricity generated by coal, stored in batteries using heavy metals from strip mining. It's almost like people don't want to consider that their hippy golf cart is likely worse for the environment than a full size pickup once you factor in all the parts of the equation.

Yeah, look at the mining sites in Chile and other places. :eek:

Magic Bus 10-25-2017 07:56 PM

A friend of mine on the Exec level of Toyota recently retired. He informed me that while Toyota will spend a lot on hybrid/electric car production. They do not feel that electric is the long term future, as there are a lot of draw backs which was mentioned in the posts above. Plus the fact that most electrical grids can only handle a certain amount of electric cars.

They are working with other companies to produce hydrogen, at a much lower cost. If that can be accomplished, they feel, that this will be the long term future. Right now, hydrogen cost is the biggest draw back. If this can be achieved, Toyota would most likely start entering in joint ventures and place hydrogen stations in strategic locations outside the state of California. Currently, California is the only state with strategic hydrogen filling stations.

Can you imagine the largest car/hydrogen car manufacturer also being invested in it's filling stations? :eek:

Rusty 10-25-2017 08:28 PM

I retired from power generation. I know how shakily the power grid is. As it stands. It will need to be up-graded to handle the added load from electric cars. But the biggest problem with that is NIMBY's (Not In My Back Yard idiots). The grid needs up-graded anyways from a national security stand point. :eek:

xfrgtr 10-26-2017 06:40 AM

Nissan dithering on next-gen Z car

babyzilla 10-26-2017 08:31 AM

Not to shift the focus from the Z, but the supra is for sure coming out. We all saw the functional prototype being tested along with its BMW Z4 twin. Why wasn't this at least shown at the TAS? I always thought TAS was the main source where future production vehicles were showcased (along with other concepts, of course), but I guess there will always be those vehicles that just pop into production out of no where...
This thread made me intrigued/ excited, then doubtful, then angry, then disappointed, and now confused LOL talk about a mix of emotions.

Volk Z 10-26-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 3702919)
Not to shift the focus from the Z, but the supra is for sure coming out. We all saw the functional prototype being tested along with its BMW Z4 twin. Why wasn't this at least shown at the TAS? I always thought TAS was the main source where future production vehicles were showcased (along with other concepts, of course), but I guess there will always be those vehicles that just pop into production out of no where...
This thread made me intrigued/ excited, then doubtful, then angry, then disappointed, and now confused LOL talk about a mix of emotions.

Predictability and leaving the "excitement" out is not what Toyota want for the next supra... my guess I they do some grand entrance with that car to bring it back to life in a new body...
I'm thinking like transformers and the cars they introduced in that movie... maybe like the next Bond car or something along that line.

Zat_Zuma 10-26-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702738)
Only a few places I've been have plugs for electric cars right now. By 2025, you will see more of them. By 2030, they should be very common. If you are using a public charging station. It will take about 9hrs for a full charge for a Tesla, and cost about 8 cent per mile. Oh........there will be push back on the electric car. Because of cost of the cars, range, and the time it takes to recharge. Just wait until people see the cost of a replacement battery! It's about 1/2 the cost of the car. :eek:

Plus they will have a generator in the truck to actually go somewhere and get back. Recharge is a cold hearted bitch.

Electric cars will not be replacing gasoline motors anytime soon. Electricity will become to expensive to afford charging a electric car.

Rusty 10-26-2017 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 3702977)
Plus they will have a generator in the truck to actually go somewhere and get back. Recharge is a cold hearted bitch.

Electric cars will not be replacing gasoline motors anytime soon. Electricity will become to expensive to afford charging a electric car.

A couple of European countries have already banned the fossil fuel engines beginning in 2030. More are thinking about. It's all electric. The other thing. Now we are paying fuel tax on a gallon of gas. Electric cars don't pay this. What has been talked about is a road users tax. It's based on the number of miles you drive per year. They are still trying to figure out the details on payment. One idea is at the end of the year. You will pay one lump sum for the number of miles driven. The other is that you pay at the time of recharging. The recharging socket will have a wireless sensor to the car's odometer to detect the number of miles driven since last recharge.

Zat_Zuma 10-26-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3702997)
A couple of European countries have already banned the fossil fuel engines beginning in 2030. More are thinking about. It's all electric. The other thing. Now we are paying fuel tax on a gallon of gas. Electric cars don't pay this. What has been talked about is a road users tax. It's based on the number of miles you drive per year. They are still trying to figure out the details on payment. One idea is at the end of the year. You will pay one lump sum for the number of miles driven. The other is that you pay at the time of recharging. The recharging socket will have a wireless sensor to the car's odometer to detect the number of miles driven since last recharge.

European is so much different than North American. Most European countries are so small that everything is centralized or have fantastic public transportation to get around. Most of their borders are less than 200km apart.

I would really like to see it perform on a vacation trip longer than 500 km(~800 miles) and be practical. I just don't see it in the next 20 years.

Maybe a gas/electric but time will tell.

Rusty 10-26-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 3703005)
European is so much different than North American. Most European countries are so small that everything is centralized or have fantastic public transportation to get around. Most of their borders are less than 200km apart.

I would really like to see it perform on a vacation trip longer than 500 km(~800 miles) and be practical. I just don't see it in the next 20 years.

Maybe a gas/electric but time will tell.

I see more of a hybrid type of car for the us because of the distances. Europe more of the electric. Really would like the H2 fuel cell get more R&D in it. Think it's the best way to go.

Chuck33079 10-26-2017 01:27 PM

I still don't know why we haven't gone to an electric car with a diesel generator.

Jordo! 10-26-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3702832)
A friend of mine on the Exec level of Toyota recently retired. He informed me that while Toyota will spend a lot on hybrid/electric car production. They do not feel that electric is the long term future, as there are a lot of draw backs which was mentioned in the posts above. Plus the fact that most electrical grids can only handle a certain amount of electric cars.

They are working with other companies to produce hydrogen, at a much lower cost. If that can be accomplished, they feel, that this will be the long term future. Right now, hydrogen cost is the biggest draw back. If this can be achieved, Toyota would most likely start entering in joint ventures and place hydrogen stations in strategic locations outside the state of California. Currently, California is the only state with strategic hydrogen filling stations.

Can you imagine the largest car/hydrogen car manufacturer also being invested in it's filling stations? :eek:

Honda has a hydrogen car https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/clarity

Sounds good to me -- batteries kind of suck, and creating them/disposing of them generates tons of toxic garbage.

Jordo! 10-26-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3702904)

ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

日産:第45回 東京モーターショー 2017

Where is the new Z, Nissan?!? :shakes head:

Well, this is probably the Supra.... snazzy

Toyota to Unveil GR HV SPORTS concept at Tokyo Motor Show 2017 | TOYOTA Global Newsroom

sunkist350z 10-26-2017 11:15 PM

Nissan Doesn't Seem Too Keen On New Z Sports Car

Rusty 10-26-2017 11:41 PM

What is old, will be new again. Given enough time. Nissan is getting their moneys worth out of the tooling for the Z.

jchammond 10-27-2017 01:38 AM

10 year's running & plenty available part's (both oem & aftermarket)...You're able to build your ~Z~ into a supercar-if desired.
Recently seen 700-800+ whp made on pump 93 & e85....So the Horses can be Churned out; as long as you're willing to spend the time & $$$$.
As i live in SC & people know how the State Gov. loves to tax you every year on your property item's,,,it's cost effective to build up an older vehicle vs. purchasing a brand new one.
You have the option to insure it for whatever value you choose,
That's my reasoning for building my own Hot-Wheel's car & repairing my older vehicles vs. planning a future purchase of something new.
A Harley Trike could possibly fall into the picture over the next 3-4 year's.
11' Z Base/Touring 87,000+
96' C1500 Pick-up 260,000+
92' K1500 Blazer 334,000+

Dirk McGurck 10-27-2017 07:37 AM

We're talking, what, like $15K, for an AAM or FI TT kit to put me at a modest 500HP? I'd rather pay for that than a Sentra Nismo.

RicerX 10-27-2017 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3702743)
Not to mention that disposal of the batteries is terrible for the environment. The environment that you're supposed to be saving by using a car that runs on electricity generated by coal, stored in batteries using heavy metals from strip mining. It's almost like people don't want to consider that their hippy golf cart is likely worse for the environment than a full size pickup once you factor in all the parts of the equation.

The song of my people.

I can't believe how few people are connecting the dots here. Apparently electricity is produced by ******* magic or something.

RicerX 10-27-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 3702919)
Not to shift the focus from the Z, but the supra is for sure coming out. We all saw the functional prototype being tested along with its BMW Z4 twin. Why wasn't this at least shown at the TAS? I always thought TAS was the main source where future production vehicles were showcased (along with other concepts, of course), but I guess there will always be those vehicles that just pop into production out of no where...
This thread made me intrigued/ excited, then doubtful, then angry, then disappointed, and now confused LOL talk about a mix of emotions.

LA Auto Show - Toyota has a vehicle debut slotted according to the LA Auto Show website. Infiniti will debut the new QX80 there as well. Nissan has no vehicle debuts yet scheduled, but will have the 2018 370Z heritage edition on full display.

LA was where the 370Z debuted, so if there's any hope for a next gen Z, it will be the first week of December this year.

Another perplexing bit of information is nothing about a MY2018 GT-R. At all. Anywhere. The new model year GT-Rs have been released the summer before their respective calendar years every single year except this one. What's the deal?

Zingston 10-27-2017 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3703177)
We're talking, what, like $15K, for an AAM or FI TT kit to put me at a modest 500HP? I'd rather pay for that than a Sentra Nismo.

You're right Dirk, the Sentra Nismo IS one hot ride! However, I'm still holding out for the excellent, sporty and performance focused Nismo Versa! Yeah baby, NV!!!!

:facepalm:

Sadly such a model wouldn't surprise me given how Nissan is generifying the Nismo name. :confused:

TN.Z 10-27-2017 08:30 AM

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Z35?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3703185)
You're right Dirk, the Sentra Nismo IS one hot ride! However, I'm still holding out for the excellent, sporty and performance focused Nismo Versa! Yeah baby, NV!!!!

:facepalm:

Sadly such a model wouldn't surprise me given how Nissan is generifying the Nismo name.



You might not be able to get your Nismo Versa, but you CAN get yourself a super fast Nismo Leaf!!



Ridiculous....

Zingston 10-27-2017 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3703187)
You might not be able to get your Nismo Versa, but you CAN get yourself a super fast Nismo Leaf!!



Ridiculous....

So many awesome options!!! :ughdance:

Rusty 10-27-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3703180)
The song of my people.

I can't believe how few people are connecting the dots here. Apparently electricity is produced by ******* magic or something.

Ohhhhhhhhh................the dots are connected. And I don't like the connections. :mad:

onzedge 10-27-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3703180)
The song of my people.

I can't believe how few people are connecting the dots here. Apparently electricity is produced by ******* magic or something.

:rofl2:

ElwoodBlues 10-27-2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3703187)
You might not be able to get your Nismo Versa, but you CAN get yourself a super fast Nismo Leaf!!



Ridiculous....


I'd rather have a Nismo Cube... bring back the Cube! :driving:

UNKNOWN_370 10-28-2017 07:58 AM

Nissan says... Z, is a dying market. The people want Nismo everything else.

Nissan Drops a Hint That the Z Car Might be Dead - The Drive

Fvck your FWD
FVCK YOUR CVT
Fvck your bitchy hand painted red stripe.
Fvck Nissan... Twice!!

My advice to Nissan ENTHUSIASTS...
Try that Kia Stinger, don't waste your money on a maxima andvsupport this faggotry.

Only buy a Z and abandon ANYTHING else Nissan makes.


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