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280driver 03-21-2017 10:10 AM

I think Nissan should leak something to give people a reason to wait. I'm sure many will pull the trigger on a Mustang, Cameron et. or start waiting for the Supra.

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3629198)
My personal opinion is in comparing the Z to the muscle cars is strictly about performance to the dollar. I bought the Z for its uniqueness like most folks on this thread. I would gladly cough up another $5 to $10k to get the same upgrades that come with the latest models SS and GT muscle cars. Them damn things out the box are as nimble or more than than the Z with the same amount of money put into a Z with aftermarket components...and it will take you that much money to level the playing field with them. I got my *** waxed by a guy in a brand new SS Camero in the rain on a track day. Yeah, he is a better driver but that damn car lives up to the hype.

I am a Z fan through and through and even given the performance of the new Cameros and Mustangs, they are beast compared to the feeling I get when sitting in and handling my Z. I just would like a Z that starts at the same place as the before mentioned muscle cars. And for comparing the Z to the Porsche, Jag, Vett and Audi TT for me only speaks to the feeling of what a sportscar should feel like...you can't get that from a muscle car or even a GTR!

Yeah but they can't do it with the same weight, ride height, wheelbase, without ELECTRONICS controlling everything. All we have is VDC for the suspension/wheels and some transmission programs such as Algorithm & SRM/DRM. All our performance comes from being an analog car that has been engineered by human being to perform.

The corvette and camaro have been computer programmed into being good. Electric lsd, steering sensors galore, intelligent correcting left and right. Those have become poor man's Porsche's from an electronic standpoint. As the years grow I'm really beginning to appreciate the Z34 as the last analog car. It truly achieves a balance the rest can't. When people say there corvette is superior to a Z in every way, they are not realizing they have WAY MORE electronics controlling their back wheels than a GTR has controlling 4 wheels.

When we MOD our Z's we are building an old school'is car. A REAL car and I LOVE IT!!!

Our electronic steering shuts off after 20mph so navigation through a parking lot or something that facilitates slow driving is easy. After 20Mph. It shuts off and we have hydraulic steering. These cars today. Always electronic.

YUCK!!!

Something to think about.

mishuko 03-21-2017 10:59 AM

I mean even if the supermodel has a loose goose I'd still mash (like let's take mclaren for example). Then again you got your girl next door type (z) can get augmented (boosted) and be a beauty of her own.

sx moneypit 03-21-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3630112)
Yeah but they can't do it with the same weight, ride height, wheelbase, without ELECTRONICS controlling everything. All we have is VDC for the suspension/wheels and some transmission programs such as Algorithm & SRM/DRM. All our performance comes from being an analog car that has been engineered by human being to perform.

The corvette and camaro have been computer programmed into being good. Electric lsd, steering sensors galore, intelligent correcting left and right. Those have become poor man's Porsche's from an electronic standpoint. As the years grow I'm really beginning to appreciate the Z34 as the last analog car. It truly achieves a balance the rest can't. When people say there corvette is superior to a Z in every way, they are not realizing they have WAY MORE electronics controlling their back wheels than a GTR has controlling 4 wheels.

When we MOD our Z's we are building an old school'is car. A REAL car and I LOVE IT!!!

OUR ELECTRONIC STEERING shuts off after 20mph so navigation through a parking lot or something that facilitates slow driving is easy. After 20Mph. It shuts off and we have hydraulic steering. These cars today. Always electronic.

YUCK!!!

Something to think about.

The Z has no electronic steering assist.

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3146546)
60k for the new Z is ridiculous. I would consider it starting at 33-34k all the way up to 41k. That's what happened to the Z32, they ramped up the price and they made a huge mistake.

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Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3630208)
The Z has no electronic steering assist.

Yes if does. Hydraulic steer power assist, that's an electronic system that shuts off once u pass 15 or 20mph that's why the Z steering is numb under 20mph.

sx moneypit 03-21-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3630228)
Yes if does. Hydraulic steer power assist, that's an electronic system that shuts off once u pass 15 or 20mph that's why the Z steering is numb under 20mph.

It has an electronic power steering valve that controls the flow of the fluid but it doesn't have any electric assist.

Hotrodz 03-21-2017 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3630112)
Yeah but they can't do it with the same weight, ride height, wheelbase, without ELECTRONICS controlling everything. All we have is VDC for the suspension/wheels and some transmission programs such as Algorithm & SRM/DRM. All our performance comes from being an analog car that has been engineered by human being to perform.

The corvette and camaro have been computer programmed into being good. Electric lsd, steering sensors galore, intelligent correcting left and right. Those have become poor man's Porsche's from an electronic standpoint. As the years grow I'm really beginning to appreciate the Z34 as the last analog car. It truly achieves a balance the rest can't. When people say there corvette is superior to a Z in every way, they are not realizing they have WAY MORE electronics controlling their back wheels than a GTR has controlling 4 wheels.

When we MOD our Z's we are building an old school'is car. A REAL car and I LOVE IT!!!

Our electronic steering shuts off after 20mph so navigation through a parking lot or something that facilitates slow driving is easy. After 20Mph. It shuts off and we have hydraulic steering. These cars today. Always electronic.

YUCK!!!

Something to think about.

You are so spot on and why I love the car. I see guys in the new corvette and one guy in particular in a NSX that are really fast around the track, but their lines suck. The car bails them out of their bad driving habits. One guy posted a video of him smoking around the track in c7 and a couple of instructor lit him up because of his poor car control and course management. The one instructor was like you need to lear how to properly use your throttle as you can see the traction control ligh comes on every time you exit a turn. He told basically that he needed to slow down and learn type to drive so that he could turn off or down the nannies so that he could go faster.

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Nixin 03-21-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3629995)
Hey guys, what oil should I use in my Z35?

The owners manual calls for Baby Oil only! :tup:

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3629976)
To be fair, it could probably be edited down to maybe 10 pages if you cut the fluff.

Honestly.... That's true of any thread that passes 10 pages.:roflpuke2:

UNKNOWN_370 03-21-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3630240)
It has an electronic power steering valve that controls the flow of the fluid but it doesn't have any electric assist.

:tiphat: OK kool.

JARblue 03-21-2017 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3630112)
When we MOD our Z's we are building an old school'is car. A REAL car and I LOVE IT!!!

<3

muhnkey 03-23-2017 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3630112)
Yeah but they can't do it with the same weight, ride height, wheelbase, without ELECTRONICS controlling everything. All we have is VDC for the suspension/wheels and some transmission programs such as Algorithm & SRM/DRM. All our performance comes from being an analog car that has been engineered by human being to perform.

The corvette and camaro have been computer programmed into being good. Electric lsd, steering sensors galore, intelligent correcting left and right. Those have become poor man's Porsche's from an electronic standpoint. As the years grow I'm really beginning to appreciate the Z34 as the last analog car. It truly achieves a balance the rest can't. When people say there corvette is superior to a Z in every way, they are not realizing they have WAY MORE electronics controlling their back wheels than a GTR has controlling 4 wheels.

When we MOD our Z's we are building an old school'is car. A REAL car and I LOVE IT!!!

Our electronic steering shuts off after 20mph so navigation through a parking lot or something that facilitates slow driving is easy. After 20Mph. It shuts off and we have hydraulic steering. These cars today. Always electronic.

YUCK!!!

Something to think about.

As someone who loves the Stang and considered jumping ship, I did not because of the steering in the Stang. Even in track mode it has a dead zone. I dated a girl who let me drive her 15 model and it just felt like more of a handful when taking a turn aggressively. The Z glides on rails and for this reason I dont think I'll ever leave me Jessica (Z). I'll get a second car, but always have her in the driveway.

KE_1508 03-24-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by muhnkey (Post 3631411)
As someone who loves the Stang and considered jumping ship, I did not because of the steering in the Stang. Even in track mode it has a dead zone. I dated a girl who let me drive her 15 model and it just felt like more of a handful when taking a turn aggressively. The Z glides on rails and for this reason I dont think I'll ever leave me Jessica (Z). I'll get a second car, but always have her in the driveway.



Thanks for that feedback. Most cars today have that "numbness" in the steering.


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6spd 03-24-2017 05:40 PM

My wife and I just bought a Q50S, love the thing but the steering can be lame. Driving normal its great, but start darting around and it's like WTF is going on lol! Pretty much everything is going that way it seems. Not holding my breath for the new Z, very well could be derivative.

zeeder 03-26-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3629287)
Divide your Z's present HP by 2 and its still higher than the miata.:superghey:

Try this....google "MX5 for girls?" Tons of people asking the question, confirming it is, or defending it isn't.
Then ask yourself if you want to spend multiple years defending your purchase against the "girls car" stereotype.:icon14:

I drove a Miata for a decade as my only car and my manhood is still intact! We should all strive to not let other's perceptions of how we live our lives affect how we actually live them.

UNKNOWN_370 03-26-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muhnkey (Post 3631411)
As someone who loves the Stang and considered jumping ship, I did not because of the steering in the Stang. Even in track mode it has a dead zone. I dated a girl who let me drive her 15 model and it just felt like more of a handful when taking a turn aggressively. The Z glides on rails and for this reason I dont think I'll ever leave me Jessica (Z). I'll get a second car, but always have her in the driveway.

Yezzirr, the steering makes the car. Many overlook this for power. If the Z has 86 power levels, maybe I'd overlook it. But 332/350hp is just enough to keep me focused on our Z34.

Spoiler 03-27-2017 07:27 PM

Watching "Dancing with the Stars" tonight with the wife and it looks to me like a new Z is on the dancefloor during someones routine.

ChaseZ 03-27-2017 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3633047)
Watching "Dancing with the Stars" tonight with the wife and it looks to me like a new Z is on the dancefloor during someones routine.

:worthless:

Tick64 03-27-2017 07:44 PM

Whaaaaat?!

Spoiler 03-27-2017 08:19 PM

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Well it looks like a new Z to me. I hope it is, so I dont have eat crow in front of all you...

ThaeMaestro 03-27-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3633084)
Well it looks like a new Z to me. I hope it is, so I dont have eat crow in front of all you...

lamborghini huracan

Spoiler 03-27-2017 09:07 PM

Well then just get the crow out for me. Medium rare please...

MagmaRed370z 03-29-2017 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3629443)
I have respect for the Miata. Ton of guys track them because they are light, handle great, and are inexpensive to run. Seems just fine for a fun sports car.

:iagree:

onzedge 03-29-2017 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3633047)
Watching "Dancing with the Stars" tonight with the wife and it looks to me like a new Z is on the dancefloor during someones routine.

Why were you watching that show?

Jordo! 03-29-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3633125)
Well then just get the crow out for me. Medium rare please...

You're gonna want that well done. Crow are carrion birds :o

sx moneypit 03-29-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3633770)
Why were you watching that show?

Because his wife was holding a gun to his head????:wtf2:

cautupwitdm 04-01-2017 02:11 PM

New info on the rear drive Kia Stinger shows it might add for more competition for the Z35/Q

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...er-4-9-seconds

Especially if it's offered in a coupe and with manual transmission. The turbo 4 engine option shouldn't be very competitive but the TTV6 might draw some attention. Price hasn't dropped yet but that will really determine if it's going to be in the same conversation for comparison.

I hope Nissan has done some major advancement to the Z in all of this silence they're giving us. They are probably silent because they either have something truly noteworthy or they have not met expectations/nothing to separate them from the competition.

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Spoiler 04-02-2017 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3633770)
Why were you watching that show?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3633947)
Because his wife was holding a gun to his head????:wtf2:

;)

Now now, lets not make this about me.... or I'm not sharing anymore...

SgtGoldy 04-03-2017 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3635532)
;)

Now now, lets not make this about me.... or I'm not sharing anymore...

sounds like a man in distress. Blink twice if you want us to call the police.

RicerX 04-03-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3631969)
My wife and I just bought a Q50S, love the thing but the steering can be lame. Driving normal its great, but start darting around and it's like WTF is going on lol! Pretty much everything is going that way it seems. Not holding my breath for the new Z, very well could be derivative.

Congrats on the Q! Did you get DAS on yours?

Dirk McGurck 04-03-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cautupwitdm (Post 3635075)
New info on the rear drive Kia Stinger shows it might add for more competition for the Z35/Q

Kia Stinger 0-60 time under 4.9 seconds

Especially if it's offered in a coupe and with manual transmission. The turbo 4 engine option shouldn't be very competitive but the TTV6 might draw some attention. Price hasn't dropped yet but that will really determine if it's going to be in the same conversation for comparison.

I hope Nissan has done some major advancement to the Z in all of this silence they're giving us. They are probably silent because they either have something truly noteworthy or they have not met expectations/nothing to separate them from the competition.

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The Stinger sedan looks great in person. But with all the issues with the Genesis manual and Hyundai/Kia manuals in general, I would be leery of a Stinger manual.

SgtGoldy 04-03-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3635708)
The Stinger sedan looks great in person. But with all the issues with the Genesis manual and Hyundai/Kia manuals in general, I would be leery of a Stinger manual.

not to mention its just 4.9 seconds to 60. We live in a glorious age of cars, why would I settle for a 5second car?

B&W_Evader 04-03-2017 12:12 PM

This car will suffer from HP envy just like the Z. It will be a different story if they put low enough CR so you can crank boost. Also, bet they will skimp on suspension and chassis stiffness. They will need to take a lot of shortcuts to hold a price point people will bite on.

night blade 04-03-2017 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3635708)
The Stinger sedan looks great in person. But with all the issues with the Genesis manual and Hyundai/Kia manuals in general, I would be leery of a Stinger manual.

Saw it at the Toronto Auto Show and I came away with a meh on the looks, to each his own I guess, it's not bad but I expected something better from the guy who designed my SUV (Peter Schreyer).

I will test drive it, but it won't replace my Z ever.

Trips 04-07-2017 06:06 PM

2018 Heritage Edition discussion has been moved to

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...e-edition.html

cooltoy 04-07-2017 06:33 PM

Repped.

UNKNOWN_370 04-13-2017 09:55 PM

Nissan NOW states 370z successor is NOT a PRIORITY!!!!

Nissan Says A Successor To 370Z Is "Not A Priority"

In other words, we're too much of a bunch of shook bitches to compete with the likes of the Supra and Camaro.

370Z JT 04-13-2017 10:03 PM

boom!

UNKNOWN_370 04-13-2017 10:08 PM

If I was a Nissan employee having to face a Toyota Rep. This would be me... (guy in car would be a Toyota rep).

https://youtu.be/HxqHoKCYtzc

Rusty 04-13-2017 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3640788)
Nissan NOW states 370z successor is NOT a PRIORITY!!!!

Nissan Says A Successor To 370Z Is "Not A Priority"

In other words, we're too much of a bunch of shook bitches to compete with the likes of the Supra and Camaro.

Sounds like they don't have a f@cking clue on what direction, or what to do with it. :shakes head: Or maybe they are trying to throw everyone off the trail, and surprise us.


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