100% agree wtf were they thinking?

Looks like they called Honda and got their suggestion... yuck.

Yeah....I don't know what to do. I was set on silver. I really dont know wtf Nissan is doing by only offering white and black for 2018. I'm assuming 2018 is the last MY for the z34. Unless of course they just offer one color for 2019 and then kill production. On the other hand I think red is growing on me. I don't like white, black is a pita to maintain. I like red, but I don't think it contrasts well with the red accents. This is how I chose silver. BTW does red swirl easily?

Not sure about the red, but +1 for the silver :) I wanted a black cherry Z, but the dealer I went to didn't have one and silver was my second choice.... I think I made a good decision (as far as maintenance goes). Plus, the silver is very nice IRL. Looks great :) Good luck with your decision!

I'm really liking the q60 coupe these days, Nissan better show us a new Z in Tokyo this year. If the q60 was a bit lighter, I'd be in for sure.

Yes.... you do have to be careful...

So... all I see here is Max Headroom describing his nightmare of a 'sportscar'. Simply horrible.

Assuming the production will look EXACTLY like those concepts (which it won't):

I don't necessarily hate that look, just.... The front end needs some work. To me, it doesn't feel like a Z. Looks very Maxima-y (if I remember right; either that or the Sentra). Or the Murano. Either way, I think it's supposed to resemble the GTR, but... idk. The rear end is alright, I guess. I know it won't look like that but hey, I'm just giving my :twocents:.

Thoughts?

Just can't see this model ( looks like an overdone 2 door Altima ) being an improvement over any Z since inception. Also reminds me of a modern boy racer Mitsubishi Eclipse.

That concept has been around for a couple of years. I doubt it will be what they show in Oct.

I think I will just swap out my VQ37 for the new VR30dett

Wonder how straightforward that swap would be and if it would be cheaper than a TT kit...

Nissan states Z car "not a priority for us".

The 370Z Is 'Not a Priority' for Nissan

Surely that doesn't shock anyone. The Z has always been a small niche market.

France & England will stop sales of all gas, diesel powered cars & trucks by 2040. Norway by 2025 and India by 2030. Volvo to discontinue gas only powered vehicles from it's line up. BMW spending the bulk of it's R&D monies on electric or hybrid models.

The writing is on the wall. Car companies are not going to start a car from scratch, that utilizes a gas engine only. Nissan has already undergone hybrid r&d for the GTR. As Christian Meunier stated, the GTR is their halo car and that will continue. "The 370Z is not a priority for us" but added "he/we would like to make a successor to the 370Z."

I take that to mean, no new model Z in the near future. But I keep hope that it's possible to get a hybrid Z in the distant future, as Nissan can use the info learned from the GTR hybrid to incorporate into the next Z.

That's why it shared a platform and engine with the G, to save costs. I'm hoping they will do tbe same and give us another Z with tje new tt engine since I hear it has hreat tuning potential. If they do it, it's because the Z is a Nissan brand heritage car.

That was actually my prediction about 100+ pages back and I hope they still do it. Yes I agree, a 400 hp tt Z, not too much heavier then now, with good weight distribution would be a killer! However recently checking the slow sales of Vettes, 86's & Caymans. I feel the 2 seat sports car is not the market it once was and the manufacturers know it.

Hey - at least the 370Z got this heritage edition... which makes it the only car I can remember going through two decades of anniversary editions without a significant refresh.

Nissan be like GET ON OUR LEVEL.

Nissan has become GM of the late 90s/early 2000s that rode the Camaro into the ground while feverishly stamping out as many Tahoes as possible. Trade the Camaro for the Z and the Tahoe for literally any crossover Nissan can dream up and it's the same mantra and drove GM (once the world's largest carmaker... sound familiar?) into the bailouts of 2008.

Wouldn't mind seeing Ghosn drive a Pathfinder up to capitol hill to beg for money after trading imagination for profits only to be turned away and have the CVT to pop on the way out of the parking lot.

Well if true sports car sales are declining, perhaps nissan should reposition the Z to compete more with the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger (sales seem to be solid with that trio). I'm not suggesting making the Z a muscle car, but maybe a few tweets here and there might steal sales from the 3 mentioned in an effort to keep the Z alive.
I doubt they will... maybe... who knows?
OK, back to giving my cat a bath. :eek:

A 4-seater 2-door coupe version would be interesting. It could be a de-luxury'ed Q60. I'd be down for that. I don't need luxe. I just want modernly comfortable with sporty handling and that tt VR engine and a few hundred lbs lighter than the Q. I'll take it in either 2 or 4 seater format a long as it's a coupe. If the Q60 dropped 300 lbs, I would be in on that now probably.

Back in the day you could get a 2+2 Z

That was the 280ZX, right?

The 260Z, 280Z, 280ZX, 300ZX (Z31) and 300ZX (Z32) all had 2+2 versions.

I test drove a mazda miata rf (with the retractable steel roof) before buying the 2016 nismo and I really liked that car, it was just way too small of an interior for me. I'd Love to see the next incarnation of the Z have a similar retractable steel roof configuration. I prefer that to the steel convertibles on the bmw's and the benz. I know it would decrease the available space in the back storage area but maybe Nissan could create a few more hidden storage section behind the driver's seat

If Nissan is looking to appeal to a wider distribution of buyers, I think a 2+2 option for the Z might be a decent compromise. Better than no Z!

If they do that? The skyline (Q60) is good enough. Nissan is a bunch o bitches. So many cars selling 6,000 units a year and getting redesigned thoroughly. ie. Lexus GS

Exactly why I got the M2. Sports car handling, 7 inches shorter then the Q60, only 100 lbs heavier then the Z, 370 hp & tq. The M2 is selling at MSRP or a little higher, wait list of still 6 months to a year and it's going on to it's 3rd model year. So there is a very good market for this type of car.

With Nissan's new tt engines, they could definitely compete here. Take out some of the luxe and make it pricey options, as the M2 has a lot. If Nissan made it a real Nismo drivers car and priced it in the high 30's for base (no frills) and mid 40's top end. I'd have gotten that instead of the M2.

Wrong. The 2+2 Z of any model is an abomination.

Totally agree. I have owned one, 1983 280zx Black and silver 2 tone automatic. The only auto I have ever owned.

:eek:

:iagree:

My question is a bit theoretical and probably highly arguable, but.

Is it possible Nissan is trying to kill off the Z? Several factors come into play that lead to this question other than the fact the Z34 is almost 10 years old.

1- The father of Datsun died in 2015 and since then all concepts, major talks of releasing a new Z has died around the same time. It was widely speculated and spoken about that Nissan never wanted Datsun or the Z to survive and have attempted several times to kill it off.
2 - Regarding the first, this was around the same time Nissan North America stopped all backing of racing programs and aftermarket support for the Z.
3 - Nissan/Infiniti brokered a new deal with Mercedes and Renault to start a completely different car line up revolved around economy transportation and E/V technology.
4 - The car is coming along 10 years old and Nissan has cancelled its concept release 3 years in a row since 2014 when it first stated they were working on one and would release a concept at the 2015 Tokyo autoshow. Instead they brought a concept CUV car (which i may add is cool, but not the Z that was promised).
5- Nissan has invested significant time in creating the next generation R36 GT-R where as this was the Fairlady's only design rival in the Nissan/Infiniti branch.
6 - Lastly, The new generation Infiniti Q60 was finished and released by 2016, around the same time the Z was announced to be in development. Where as the G37 before was released and designed around the same time the Z34 and R35 was designed and released. This to me means Nissan has no intentions of sharing the same platform or even assembly process with any other sports car like previous generations.


All this leads back to argument number 1.

I didn't post it for shock value. If they are not selling, they won't be built. See gap between Z32 and Z33 for details. :ugh2:

I don't know how many times I have to post that Nissan officially stated the 2019 Z35 would be debuted at the Auto show this fall....

I sure hope so. Would be nice if they gave us a bit now as a teaser.

Do you know how many times Nissan has officially stated conflicting information with that after that "official" statement?

Very true. Nissan needs to wake up and treat loyal fans with more respect. How hard would it be to drop a solid hint of what's to come like every other manufacturer. That Supra is starting to look better and better......

They officially said that back in 2014 and 2015 too...

Never ''officially".