Seems like Nissan, Honda and Kia all have the same wheel designer.

Is anyone here going to TAS?

A page from the history books
 

Hopefully Nissan has learned from Toyota's example, the A80 Supra. Toyota over-priced that car and in dollar equivalents it would have matched the GTR price tag in its day. Speaking of the new Supra, I would think that Nissan will have an answer to Toyota's new car. I'm thinking that it all comes down to price point too and which target market you feel has the best chance for sucessful sales. Looking at some of the pics of the new Toyota (with a mechanical rear wing!), I would say that their car would be much higher $$$ that a revamped Z. It would make better sense for Nissan to use the Infiniti Q50 V-6 engine (405hp).

I love my 2015 white Nismo Tech AT and can hardly wait to start adding some "goodies" (i.e.: Resonators, Cool intake, oil cooler). But I will be sitting on the sidelines wondering & salivating about the next Z. Just have to wait a little longer, won't we? Happy driving everyone

Figtuna:driving:

I'm gonna enjoy my 40th z34 until I see used z35's at affordable prices. Enjoy the ride

Has Nissan said they're bringing a Z concept to the TAS or is this just speculation?

From what I recall, Nissan has said on multiple occasions that they'd debut a Z successor at TAS over the past few years. It's all speculation and I'm not even convinced they'll be showing a concept, let alone actually making one.

Hope I'm wrong though.

Nissan has never said they'd debut a Z successor at TAS over the past few years.

Just speculation

I hope they kill the Z... then our values go up and if i like the supra tt I get that. Then they can bring the successor on.
If the new Z comes out with a twin turbo then our 370z depreciates horribly. It's the same with mustang pre 2011 320hp motor and 2011 420hp engine....

It would be great if Nissan took a small breather in between models so anyone wanting to jump ship could get out of their current z.

Also I would never buy a Nissan sports car in the first production year. They've proven over and over their tranny issues are bad in the beginning. 350z, 370z and GTR all had issues first and trickled into 2nd year

:iagree:

https://www.motoring.com.au/nissan-3...ive-on-108724/

Not encouraging.........

It doesn't make much sense why they would release a official model at a show like TAS unless its released side by side some racing version. If anything it will be at the Tokyo motor show.

You are right...I think ppl are mixing up TAS (tokyo auto salon, January 2018), with the Tokyo Motor Show (end of October 2017).

Doesn't the Z34 line already depreciate horribly? lol. A brand new Nismo back in 2014 i was considering came back to the dealership with less the 3k miles and lost 10k dollars from the listed price in under half a year, perfect condition as far as i could recall.

The Q60 already goes for about 40-55k, which is already around the same price as a current Nismo. I can't see why a Z35 Z would cost anymore or be significantly higher in value because of a 3L turbo. I also can't imagine them doing anything to the car that will make it significantly better handling or weight wise. The Q60 chassis is relatively unchanged compared to the ongoing Z34 chassis. Other than adaptive dampers and engine, everything will probably be the same under the skin unfortunately, which is technically not a bad thing. The z34/r35 chassis is one of the greatest sub-supercar chassis in the last decade.

We can already assume the things it wont get that will cost an arm n leg

-Magnetic ride ....probably not
-GTR or carbon brakes...hell no
-bucket seats...mmmm no
-AWD...:icon14: no
-GTR engine....hahahahahahahahaha...no...well...maybe....no

Hell these are probably the reasons they don't have any intention on making a new model. There isn't any cost effective changes to make it worth it, its not like Nissan is leading in the sales department :shakes head:

Yeah the Z34 does depreciate but what im saying is supply and demand.... the evo is a perfect example. They evo died and now evo x that people were hating are holding or gaining value due to nothing coming after....

I think the last evo x went for like 100k.. why? No idea... it didnt even come with recaro seats in the last models...

If the Z died then the z34 would have no more production cars and the supply would be all that's left. Looking at what is available now for great Japanese sports cars it's slim picking... evo is dead, s2000 is dead, Sti is still there, brz.... slow... so nothing is really out there for sub 50k Japanese new cars.

Welp so much for that....so Z news is going to die down this year, I can't wait until next year when the auto blogs start spreading rumors about the next Z again....

Nissan won’t replace its 370Z sports car any time soon, and it certainly won’t be revealing a seventh-generation Z-car at this year’s Tokyo motor show in October.

That’s the word from now-departed Nissan Australia managing director Richard Emery, who finally provided some clarity around the on-again-off-again 370Z successor at last week’s launch of the 370Z NISMO.


“Even we don’t know,” Emery told motoring.com.au when we asked him about a US report claiming Nissan will show a new Z at Tokyo.

“And we would know if there was something pending, so there’s nothing pending. Not any time soon.”

Just like I thought. No Z to be presented in Tokyo. I knew it. That's why I'm looking at other companies. I may just go to Toyota when that Supra come out.

Nissan is gahbige...

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...living-on.html

They should just drop the new VR30DETT motor from the Q60 in the 370 Z and call it a day for a few years. That would be the ultimate update.

I'd take it, even if nothing else changed.

You think Nissan has forgotten the Z? No! Not at all.
It's in their new Leaf marketing bla bla! Twice!
https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/2018-leaf/

(Yes, a pre-FL lol)

I literally said this over a year ago... but only do it in the nismo model

That would significantly increase production cost using 2 engines during assembly.

Ford figured out how to do more than 4 engines for the mustang.... they can figure it out

Do you realize the r and d for a new production car cost...

Ford also probably sells more mustangs in a week than Nissan sells zs in six months. It's easy to amortize multiple engines when you sell 100k units. Nissan these days is lucky to sell 5k zs a year.

That's the problem right there. But, they would sell more if they invested in R and D. How many new Mustangs have come out in the past 9 years while the Z has remained the same? For that matter, how many times have they redesigned the Altima, Sentra, Rogue etc. Why buy a new Z when you can buy identical used Z's all day long? Come on Nissan, keep,the Z fresh and it will sell!

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Z35?
 

Even at its peak, the 350/370s never saw the sales of the pony cars. Between the lack of a back seat and the comparatively higher pricing, the z has been a niche vehicle for a long time now.

Even with more updates, they're not going to jump from 5-10k annually to the level of the camaro or mustang.

the R&D has been done with the vr30dett. considering how much lighter the 370z is than the new q60 i think the update would make it a super blast to drive.

They sell like 2k GTR's a year yet invest a ton of money in that car...
If they leaned on the Z as more of a baby GTR with the VR30DTT then it would have more success.

Halo cars are always a money loser. They just exist to generate press and dealership visits so they can sell you an Altima.

This has turned into such a depressing thread :wtf2:
lol

Exactly. Lexus lost a ton making the LFA.

Honda ain't making any money the NSX either!

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Unfortunately, most people like SUV's, Minivans, 4 door fwd sedans and other soul less vehicles because of their utility and practicality, not for fun

There's not that much to change on the z to be honest. The chassis design was miles ahead of the competition from the inception of the 350z, and the z34 improved upon it vastly. Back in 2004, no other car besides the s2000 had a chassis design capable of matching the Z in it's price range and I'd say 7/10 times the Z can beat a s2k where it matters. Cars like the Camaro and Mustang couldn't hold a candle to the z33 chassis. Even the German chassis were inferior apart from the total build quality and power. Not even the e46 and e92 chassis could compare in terms of design. It wasn't even until the latest Mustang chassis that ford could even compare to chassis design with the Z.

With the exception of bolt on parts like brakes, tires and engine packages. There is nothing really lacking underneath the surface. All of the subsequent upgrades would just make the msrp significantly higher for a car that is almost 100% unaccesary for the majority of the drivers on the road. And this is the ultimate flaw with the Z chassis. So much cost has gone into the chassis, there isn't much more you can add without driving up the cost for a one dimensional sport car. Atleast with cars like the mx5 and s2k, you have lightweight and a superior soft top design, and everything else has a backseat.
The convertible Z was a complete afterthought to the original purpose.
The majority of people just don't have the roads readily available to them to fully enjoy or understand the capability of the Z chassis.

The 3 liter turbo engine is probably the most sensible long term upgrade. If for no other reason to just stay current with engine trends and power figures. Will it breathe life back into the design for future buyers?

I doubt it. Rant over ..

Ok, just to lighten the mood a bit. Perhaps this is the elusive Z35 test mule in camouflage. :icon17:

If Real, Jaguar E-Type With Nissan 370Z Lights Will Make You Shake Your Head

Not attractive, but I see the motive of the exercise. The Z34 lights were meant to trace out the faces of such corners, and with modern requirements of the ways bumpers and all have to be designed, I guess someone wanted to see what it'd be like without such.



in 2021 or whatever, we're all gonna be like "wow we missed our chance to double up on a Z34."

Look like they are going to make the new Z.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...s4D5MuIl0q1GXA

If that's really it, I'll gladly keep my 15 for another 10 years.