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280driver 09-01-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3957319)
https://www.motor1.com/news/441906/2...n=RSS-all-news
And now back-tracking on reports last week that the car had been delayed. Things are looking up gents.

One more.....
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...-release-date/

NissanFreak81 09-01-2020 07:02 AM

Dang it! Just when I was all ready to give up and move on, Nissan pulls me back in. Well played.

FPenvy 09-01-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3957319)
https://www.motor1.com/news/441906/2...n=RSS-all-news
And now back-tracking on reports last week that the car had been delayed. Things are looking up gents.

i never believed those reports on a delay.

i deleted like 50 posts on the FB group this week of idiots posting it over and over lol

FPenvy 09-01-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3957318)
https://youtu.be/b5ZgwW7hETY

Looks like we get the prototype reveal and other details on September 15th.

yea someone just posted that they partnered with ZCON and are ding the virtual reveal during that event in 2 weeks.

Arvada 09-01-2020 08:17 AM

From Today's Teaser
 
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http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1598966146

triso07 09-01-2020 09:00 AM

Very exciting news.

Unfortunate that it says "proto". I thought we were told the teaser video was the production car. Ah well, better to have something than nothing.

JARblue 09-01-2020 09:25 AM

Moar waiting!! :rock:

UNKNOWN_370 09-01-2020 10:29 AM

Just read the news online. So that 2023 release was to fux with us. Thats dumb. People coulda went to the dealer n bought another car on the strength of that article?
This why Nissan loses money.

But excited none the least.

UNKNOWN_370 09-01-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3957176)
the GTR DCT wouldnt work without a new chassis. well i cant say for sure but based on the design and being rear mounted in the GTR i'm just assuming there would be placement and engineering challenges to make it work under a Z.

Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

UNKNOWN_370 09-01-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3957214)
They are not to make the Z a little GTR lol. They history is to stay with what works for that platform. Until they make a wholesale change with the Infinity line they are not doing anything different with the Z.:ugh2:

Yeah but, 400 hp in the Z doesn't make it GTR fast when the R35 is at like 545+hp

FPenvy 09-01-2020 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957370)
Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

well yes the are all FM platform.

i meant they aren't developing an entirely new chassis for the Z i'm pretty sure it's using the 370Z and Q stuff with some upgrades. not 100% sure of course.

Hotrodz 09-01-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957372)
Yeah but, 400 hp in the Z doesn't make it GTR fast when the R35 is at like 545+hp

Understood my comment was more othe line of the Z shares the same platform as the Q line and unlike GM, Nissan is about keeping the heritage of the two separate. It was a leap for them to expand the Nismo brand beyond the Z.

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UNKNOWN_370 09-01-2020 11:14 AM

Im happy... im excited!! I hope Nissan dont eff it up. I got a dealer hookup for employee discount so it just might be right next to my camaro? I hope it will offer what was missing in the Z34.

Ie not front heavy. Reasonable technology. It doesnt have to he the greatest. But not empty like the z34. Just enough to hold its weight for the next dozen years.:roflpuke2::tup:

Seriously though. The Z has the supra tearing up torque meters. The camaro is defying physics, the mustang can hang on the track now and Golf R's are making bad business of Z34's.
I hear the auto will be this cars weak spot. Im hoping this is one of NISSANS famous secret hold outs.
Remember, the 7 speed came outta left. We had no news till the g37 pre-production was in the auto shows.
The Q60 had the best v6 engine in the price range. I bought a camaro, honestly, cuz the transmission was that bad. That and $54,000 felt expensive for what it was. $44,000 camaro had more going for it. Faster, more tech, more torque. The transmission was incredible. Manual option, though I didnt go that route.

Now this beast of an engine is going in the right car. Hoping its 100lbs lighter? Same weight as the z34 at worst. Hope the engine bay has been designed not to be front heavy in the corners. I never fully tuned out the slop but overcame it with driving skill.
Hoping the transmission gets some modernized tricks. And we KNOW about them. Ya man found DS on our Z transmission days ago. Shyts been around over a decade. Lol :ughdance: better late than never though right. :driving:

Im pumped. But mainly. I hope these concepts are hiding some curves we cant see? Or like the GTR. Hope it looks a lot better in person. The GTR looks like hell in magazines n like heaven in person.

Hotrodz 09-01-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957385)
Im happy... im excited!! I hope Nissan dont eff it up. I got a dealer hookup for employee discount so it just might be right next to my camaro? I hope it will offer what was missing in the Z34.

Ie not front heavy. Reasonable technology. It doesnt have to he the greatest. But not empty like the z34. Just enough to hold its weight for the next dozen years.:roflpuke2::tup:

Seriously though. The Z has the supra tearing up torque meters. The camaro is defying physics, the mustang can hang on the track now and Golf R's are making bad business of Z34's.
I hear the auto will be this cars weak spot. Im hoping this is one of NISSANS famous secret hold outs.
Remember, the 7 speed came outta left. We had no news till the g37 pre-production was in the auto shows.
The Q60 had the best v6 engine in the price range. I bought a camaro, honestly, cuz the transmission was that bad. That and $54,000 felt expensive for what it was. $44,000 camaro had more going for it. Faster, more tech, more torque. The transmission was incredible. Manual option, though I didnt go that route.

Now this beast of an engine is going in the right car. Hoping its 100lbs lighter? Same weight as the z34 at worst. Hope the engine bay has been designed not to be front heavy in the corners. I never fully tuned out the slop but overcame it with driving skill.
Hoping the transmission gets some modernized tricks. And we KNOW about them. Ya man found DS on our Z transmission days ago. Shyts been around over a decade. Lol :ughdance: better late than never though right. :driving:

Im pumped. But mainly. I hope these concepts are hiding some curves we cant see? Or like the GTR. Hope it looks a lot better in person. The GTR looks like hell in magazines n like heaven in person.

I love your enthusiasm and we all can hope! If the cost is going to be similar to the Supra it needs to be as good or better. One other thing I hope they do which is also a huge performance upgrade in my mind is flat floor. The Supra got a number of performance upgrades in that package.

The deal is as the the prices of the offering go up they come ever closer to the cost of the C8 and I would be hard pressed not to consider it. The C8 is a gorgeous car in person!

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FPenvy 09-01-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957385)
Im happy... im excited!! I hope Nissan dont eff it up. I got a dealer hookup for employee discount so it just might be right next to my camaro? I hope it will offer what was missing in the Z34.

Ie not front heavy. Reasonable technology. It doesnt have to he the greatest. But not empty like the z34. Just enough to hold its weight for the next dozen years.:roflpuke2::tup:

Seriously though. The Z has the supra tearing up torque meters. The camaro is defying physics, the mustang can hang on the track now and Golf R's are making bad business of Z34's.
I hear the auto will be this cars weak spot. Im hoping this is one of NISSANS famous secret hold outs.
Remember, the 7 speed came outta left. We had no news till the g37 pre-production was in the auto shows.
The Q60 had the best v6 engine in the price range. I bought a camaro, honestly, cuz the transmission was that bad. That and $54,000 felt expensive for what it was. $44,000 camaro had more going for it. Faster, more tech, more torque. The transmission was incredible. Manual option, though I didnt go that route.

Now this beast of an engine is going in the right car. Hoping its 100lbs lighter? Same weight as the z34 at worst. Hope the engine bay has been designed not to be front heavy in the corners. I never fully tuned out the slop but overcame it with driving skill.
Hoping the transmission gets some modernized tricks. And we KNOW about them. Ya man found DS on our Z transmission days ago. Shyts been around over a decade. Lol :ughdance: better late than never though right. :driving:

Im pumped. But mainly. I hope these concepts are hiding some curves we cant see? Or like the GTR. Hope it looks a lot better in person. The GTR looks like hell in magazines n like heaven in person.

if it looks good and has the bumps in tech and interior etc that we are all looking for then i'll probably grab one.

however, i'll wait for someone to buy one and take the initial hit then i scoop it lol

i bought my current Z with 1200 miles on it for a great price compared to the $45k sticker lol and yes i still have the window sticker in the glove box.

FPenvy 09-01-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3957388)
I love your enthusiasm and we all can hope! If the cost is going to be similar to the Supra it needs to be as good or better. One other thing I hope they do which is also a huge performance upgrade in my mind is flat floor. The Supra got a number of performance upgrades in that package.

The deal is as the the prices of the offering go up they come ever closer to the cost of the C8 and I would be hard pressed not to consider it. The C8 is a gorgeous car in person!

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C8 looks good but i would only consider buying the Z06 or better.

after hearing that flat plane 5.5L yea the base/Z51 can suck it now lol

NRTim 09-01-2020 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3957318)
https://youtu.be/b5ZgwW7hETY

Looks like we get the prototype reveal and other details on September 15th.

Oh lawd finally!! :tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 09-01-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3957390)
C8 looks good but i would only consider buying the Z06 or better.

after hearing that flat plane 5.5L yea the base/Z51 can suck it now lol

Yeah that was crazy!! Chevy just patented a new 5.7ltr that seems to be a sports application. Maybe they going to make a vette in the supra price range? Or maybe a new camaro is coming. Smaller and lighter??

FPenvy 09-01-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957397)
Yeah that was crazy!! Chevy just patented a new 5.7ltr that seems to be a sports application. Maybe they going to make a vette in the supra price range? Or maybe a new camaro is coming. Smaller and lighter??

yea that can have multiple application. could be an update to the truck/suv engines as well.

i'm still waiting to see if the Z06 or just ZR1 will get the twin turbo treatment.

jcasti07 09-01-2020 02:10 PM

They really need to stop messing with us. I'm literally in the middle of a transaction to acquire an 2011 sport with only 33,000 miles and loads of goodies, but now I feel like I should hold out. What are you waiting for Nissan!?!?

FL 4Motion 09-01-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957370)
Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

Iirc, the gtr is running a bespoke platform developed specifically for the r35. Yes, it’s a front mid engine mount layout and has a transaxle in the rear, ie the 6 sp dct and rear axle share the same housing. That’s why the gtr trans will never realistically work in another car like the z, way too much $$$ to get that all to marry up nicely. That transaxle would however work pretty easily with a mid engine layout I’d imagine.

Mmmm, mid engine r36. Do it nissan!

FL 4Motion 09-01-2020 05:24 PM

You know, I don’t think the r35 engine is front mid mounted. Got curious and looked at a couple pics of the drivetrain sans body and the engine is sitting in what looks like smack dab over the center of the front axle. FM by definition is supposed to be the engine behind the front axle but still in front of the driver correct?

The rear transaxle makes even more sense since the weight over the back end helps negate the importance of FM set up for the engine. Although, when pushed hard the gtr does have some noticeable understeer.

280driver 09-01-2020 07:07 PM

Notice the exhaust note during the throttle blip at the end of the video. I assume that’s actually from the new car right? Sounds pretty good to me.

UNKNOWN_370 09-02-2020 09:59 AM

Heres a rear view teaser drawing. Holds a lot of resemblence to the Z32 in the rear.

https://www.motor1.com/news/442052/n...er-rear-photo/

nismo13807 09-02-2020 10:38 AM

not sure how true this is.

https://jalopnik.com/the-next-nissan..._PvdE2eg3BCgmI

Ghostvette 09-02-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nismo13807 (Post 3957521)

Jalopnik....fake news....:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

UNKNOWN_370 09-02-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo13807 (Post 3957521)


A statement was made & went rampant. I posted this already. But yesterday it was debunked with a new article.

280driver 09-02-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nismo13807 (Post 3957521)

Believe that’s based on the false article(s) from last week. Nissan needs the car ASAP to generate excitement and there is no reason the car would take that long given it’s not all new. We get answer in less than 2 wks thankfully.

nismo13807 09-02-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3957525)
Jalopnik....fake news....:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957531)
A statement was made & went rampant. I posted this already. But yesterday it was debunked with a new article.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3957565)
Believe that’s based on the false article(s) from last week. Nissan needs the car ASAP to generate excitement and there is no reason the car would take that long given it’s not all new. We get answer in less than 2 wks thankfully.


Thanks guys! i just saw the created date of this article and it mentioned about the prototype on the Sept 15th, so i wasnt sure if there was some new info that have came out.

KCZ 09-02-2020 07:15 PM

This is from an Email sent out by the ZCON organizers yesterday. (ZCON is Sept 14-19.)


Nashville ZCON- Tuesday Special Event

ZCON 2020 registrants, our team has some incredible news!

We are pleased to share that the new Nissan Z virtual reveal has been designed to occur during this year’s 33rd Annual ZCON event in Nashville. The event will be live from Yokohama, we will be seeing the first view of the new Z prototype! This year’s ZCON (Z Car Convention) is celebrating the “50th Anniversary of the Z” and we couldn’t be more pleased to help share this exciting news.

The Z Car Club Association and Nissan are pleased to invite you, our registered guests to this year’s “50th Anniversary of the Z” celebration to partake in the festivities. The Tuesday night “special” event has been organized by Nissan in cooperation with our ZCON team. Festivities for the evening will be hosted by Adam Carolla!..For the virtual reveal, Adam will play host for some car-talk during the Nissan Z prototype virtual reveal evening.

This exclusive event will be open to only ZCON registered guests...
The virtual reveal is being orchestrated with a live presentation from Yokohama, Japan. Hiroshi Tamura (Nissan Chief Product Specialist) and Alfonso Albaisa (SVP of Global Design) will carry out a virtual talk show, allowing online audiences to participate in the talk show. The online guests will also appear as a gallery view so live attendees can see them.

You don’t want to miss this special reveal of the long awaited, new Z car prototype!

tvfreakazoid 09-02-2020 07:55 PM

How many if us think it will be a disappointment, some what or it's going to be great?

I'll be in my bunk!

UNKNOWN_370 09-02-2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3957617)
How many if us think it will be a disappointment, some what or it's going to be great?

I'll be in my bunk!

I honestly dont know what to expect. But just like all sports car reveals. I think positive and hope for the best.

Z_ealot 09-02-2020 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3957619)
I honestly dont know what to expect. But just like all sports car reveals. I think positive and hope for the best.

Same here, we also have to keep in mind that this is a prototype they are unveiling and we all know how much nissan can change the design from prototype to final production. Just think back to what the gtr prototype looked like when they unveiled it way back when to when the final production model was revealed.

chubbs 09-07-2020 06:06 AM

Latest teaser from Nissan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlHM41wnL8

If it doesn't work, here's the youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlH...ature=emb_logo

NissanFreak81 09-07-2020 07:37 AM

Awesome!!

280driver 09-07-2020 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3958139)
Latest teaser from Nissan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlHM41wnL8

If it doesn't work, here's the youtube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlH...ature=emb_logo

Doesn’t it look like the chrome strip that runs along the roofline is flat black on that car? Would be great if that’s an option.

chubbs 09-07-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3958147)
Doesn’t it look like the chrome strip that runs along the roofline is flat black on that car? Would be great if that’s an option.

If it's 'chrome' I can see quite a few people getting the vinyl wrap out and changing it.

Do you like the 240-esque headlamp scoops? It's our first proper look at them. Similar to the 240z, but stretched.



Edit - and for all those MT freaks - at 16 seconds it looks a bit like he could be wrapping his hand around a manual gearshift :)

280driver 09-07-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3958152)
If it's 'chrome' I can see quite a few people getting the vinyl wrap out and changing it.

Do you like the 240-esque headlamp scoops? It's our first proper look at them. Similar to the 240z, but stretched.



Edit - and for all those MT freaks - at 16 seconds it looks a bit like he could be wrapping his hand around a manual gearshift :)

I love everything I’ve seen so far. They can’t make it any clearer that they used the S30 as the main influence.

sportsman2003 09-07-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3958152)
If it's 'chrome' I can see quite a few people getting the vinyl wrap out and changing it.

Do you like the 240-esque headlamp scoops? It's our first proper look at them. Similar to the 240z, but stretched.



Edit - and for all those MT freaks - at 16 seconds it looks a bit like he could be wrapping his hand around a manual gearshift :)

If a manual trans is offered hopefully they have figured out how to produce a reliable slave cylinder and a 5th gear syncro that's up for the challenge.

Z_ealot 09-07-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsman2003 (Post 3958170)
If a manual trans is offered hopefully they have figured out how to produce a reliable slave cylinder and a 5th gear syncro that's up for the challenge.

Slave cylinders agree, 5th gear I've never had an issue with in either of the 370's I've had.... then again I'm pretty religious about using each gear when driving and not skipping gears like some folks like to do


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