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P's_Z 09-01-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3546962)
Sooooo with just a little intake/exhaust/tune and stickier tires we could be sub 4 sec 0-60......

Excuse me I need some alone time.

:icon18:

Ive already started to save up :twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents:

UNKNOWN_370 09-02-2016 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3546962)
Sooooo with just a little intake/exhaust/tune and stickier tires we could be sub 4 sec 0-60......

Excuse me I need some alone time.

It's exciting. I'm just nervous the Z will get our hydraulic steering unit with a numb steering rack. I'm PRAYING NO!!!!!

FPenvy 09-02-2016 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3547093)
It's exciting. I'm just nervous the Z will get our hydraulic steering unit with a numb steering rack. I'm PRAYING NO!!!!!



I'm right there with you on that. I actually want to go test drive a Q with the DAS and see how bad it actually is

mishuko 09-02-2016 08:15 AM

As bad as having an auto :stirthepot:

njobe89 09-02-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3547171)
As bad as having an auto :stirthepot:

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

FPenvy 09-02-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3547171)
As bad as having an auto :stirthepot:



But my auto is faster than your manual.......

MagmaRed370z 09-02-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3547171)
As bad as having an auto :stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3547175)
But my auto is faster than your manual.......

Here we go again....

But true (Faster) :icon17:

Wonka2581 09-02-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3547175)
But my auto is faster than your manual.......

:iagree:

JARblue 09-02-2016 09:51 AM

The amount by which your bitch sticks are supposedly faster is statistically insignificant. Your preference of an automatic just makes you a bitch :stirthepot:




Oh $hit ... wrong thread :icon17:

sx moneypit 09-02-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3547211)
The amount by which your bitch sticks are supposedly faster is statistically insignificant. Your preference of an automatic just makes you a bitch :stirthepot:




Oh $hit ... wrong thread :icon17:

:rofl2:

NISMO IX 09-02-2016 12:52 PM

Wait, they make "sports cars" with automatic transmissions? :rofl2:

Dwight Frye 09-02-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3547307)
Wait, they make "sports cars" with automatic transmissions? :rofl2:

When they first offered the 240Z with an automatic in the early 70's that version of the car became known as a "Secretary Special" because of the demographics of the buyers. It more hideously transformed into a 2+2 version for secretaries and their rugrats.

I still consider the Z with an automatic as a chickmobile or made for millenials who never learned to drive a car with a manual transmission as god and Karl Benz intended.

And yeah I know about some cars like the GTR and others that are only autos but we are talking about when you have a choice.

MagmaRed370z 09-02-2016 02:42 PM

This thread has been seriously derailed. :ugh2:

http://i.qkme.me/36blub.jpg

NISMO IX 09-02-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3547332)
This thread has been seriously derailed. :ugh2:

http://i.qkme.me/36blub.jpg

:rolleyes: Sorry.....

Wonka2581 09-02-2016 02:44 PM

I wonder if the Z35 will come standard with the dreaded "steering lock" :roflpuke2:

MagmaRed370z 09-02-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3547334)
I wonder if the Z35 will come standard with the dreaded "steering lock" :roflpuke2:

Or the CSC issue.

Ghostvette 09-02-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3547334)
I wonder if the Z35 will come standard with the dreaded "steering lock" :roflpuke2:

Yes, it will have multiple slotted holes spaced 1/8" apart all around it. It will fasten to the steering wheel and will not unlock until you shake the wheel.....:roflpuke2:

















Oh wait..... that was GM..... NVM......:owned:

Jordo! 09-02-2016 05:06 PM

Well, notwithstanding the degree of insult inflicted on self-described "sports car purists", I think, we can probably expect all flavors of the Z to offer the 7AT as an option, as it seems to be the only available trans on the Q60 (and is now available on latest Nismo, plus was always an available option on all the Japanese models), it would be weird for them to simply not bother to include it.

I'll buy the most powerful one I can afford that also has the 7 speed. I love that trans, and after tuning, its really, really fast on the gear changes.

Of course, I'm pretty sure there will be a 6MT version for each as well, so something for everyone :tup:

Actually, does anyone know if there are mechanical differences between the 300 and 400 bhp 3.0TT models? Is it all just tune, or does the 400 hp one have differently sized turbos?

EDIT: According to A Deeper Look at Infiniti's New Twin-Turbo 3.0-liter V-6

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Originally Posted by Car&Driver
The new VR comes in either 300- or 400-hp strengths. Both are force-fed air via a pair of turbochargers, and Infiniti says that aside from programming, the only differences between the two versions are their engine mounts and an optical speed sensor for the turbochargers on the 400-hp variant. This speed sensor is what allows engine programmers to spin the VR’s turbos up to 240,000 rpm, a speed Infiniti claims is the fastest of any production V-6 engine.

Well, shit. That's pretty exciting! That all sounds upgradeable via tuning and maybe a few other minor changes, like the speed sensor they mentioned. I wonder about the motor mounts, tho...

NISMO IX 09-02-2016 05:33 PM

Honestly IDGAF whether it is manual or automatic, as long as it is fun. The fun factor is a must. I own a Juke nismo AWD CVT, it is still fun to drive. People crack me up with the whole manual vs automatic thing much like muscle vs import, to each their own and be happy.

maro 09-02-2016 06:10 PM

I hope nissan has good plan for next fairlady z cause that q60 is damn hot!

Dirk McGurck 09-02-2016 09:06 PM

7sp manual would be awesome. Let's face it, no one goes 55 on the highway.

Jordo! 09-03-2016 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3547502)
7sp manual would be awesome. Let's face it, no one goes 55 on the highway.

I don't know if Nissan has a 7MT in their parts bin. I'm guessing a 6MT and 7AT will be the options, but you never know.

brucelidat 09-03-2016 01:44 AM

So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2016 12:04 PM

I'm praying we get shocked with a 7DCT on Nismo models.... That's the holy moly long shot of the century. But one must keep hope alive...

Lol

FPenvy 09-03-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3547332)
This thread has been seriously derailed. :ugh2:



http://i.qkme.me/36blub.jpg



Someone mentions auto v. Manual and they all lose their minds.

I am an engine of chaos haha

FPenvy 09-03-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3547542)
So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.



Cats? Nah those will all be gone if they make a z and I get ahold of it.

Full straight exhaust :yum:

DeliriousClam 09-03-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3547785)
Someone mentions auto v. Manual and they all lose their minds.

I am an engine of chaos haha

Agent of chaos*

Jordo! 09-03-2016 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3547542)
So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.

That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.

brucelidat 09-03-2016 03:21 PM

Don't have the answers to those questions, but ti was the 400. They were supposed to have a 300, but fell through.

FPenvy 09-03-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3547788)
Agent of chaos*



If you saw my screen you'd know the struggle and autocorrect is retarded with it now.

FPenvy 09-03-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3547803)
That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.



No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

Dirk McGurck 09-03-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3547803)
That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.

AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

UNKNOWN_370 09-03-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3547815)
No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

The Q60 will probably feel like it has no soul at the wheel. But on the pedal. It's gonna kick some serious ***....

NISMO IX 09-03-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3547886)
AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

My Juke too.

Jordo! 09-03-2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3547937)
The Q60 will probably feel like it has no soul at the wheel. But on the pedal. It's gonna kick some serious ***....

Soul can be programmed in :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3547886)
AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

Interesting. So then one option would be to delete the second cat but not the first... I guess a lot of the power comes from the downpipe swap tho, which I'm guessing eliminated the first cat.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3547815)
No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

Hm. Anybody know if the fuel injectors and fuel pumps are the same between the two variants as well.

If not, I'm starting to think the 300 hp model + Nissan p/n turbo speed sensor + upgraded motor mounts from somewhere + uprev tune = 400 hp Z on the cheap.

Well, assuming everything is plug and play interchangeable.

FPenvy 09-04-2016 01:34 AM

I'm actually curious about the fuel system now that you brought it up. I'm curious what kind of room for power gain is left on the stock injections/pump? That may be an initial mod along with breathers if the injectors are close to max from stock

NISMO IX 09-04-2016 01:49 AM

This new engine is also direct injected isn't it?

Jordo! 09-04-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3547969)
This new engine is also direct injected isn't it?

Good call -- it is Infiniti Q50 Reviews - Infiniti Q50 Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

That probably means shelling out for the 400 bhp model is cheaper than swapping out everything you'd have to to make the 300 hp rated version up to the same spec, especially if you have to pay a shop to do all the installs.

Oh well...

NISMO IX 09-04-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3548051)
Good call -- it is Infiniti Q50 Reviews - Infiniti Q50 Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

That probably means shelling out for the 400 bhp model is cheaper than swapping out everything you'd have to to make the 300 hp rated version up to the same spec, especially if you have to pay a shop to do all the installs.

Oh well...

Like I had said about the cats being primary and secondary on the Juke, the Juke is also direct injection. Different engine I know but until recently there were only two engines in the U.S. that came from Nissan turbocharged from the factory, the Juke and the GTR. They actually revised the MR16DDT in 2015 making modding harder to do, including having the turbo and recirculator built in the same unit. In the beginning you could upgrade that, now you can't without doing something to the turbo too. This is why I bought a Z, when my Juke is paid for, depending on the modding capabilities of the new Z, will either upgrade or the modding bug for my current Z will take hold.

brucelidat 09-08-2016 02:22 PM

looks like the q60 red sport is finally up on their website


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