[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

JARblue

Development Study Vehicle is code for it'll be ready when we say it's ready dammit.

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optiontrader

So on the way home from the grocery store this afternoon, we typically pass by an Aston Martin dealership (usually since I'm driving ). I'm now with everyone else that is saying the styling is growing on us. As Nissan said, they are fusing retro tribute to modern styling. Looking at the new Astons, the 240Z, and the Z Proto, to me Nissan appeared to have succeeded in merging two separate slices of time - large rectangular grill included (which I am now beginning to tolerate vice "not like").

But my biggest draw? The VR30DDTT coupled with a MANUAL.

So in.

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40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

sunkist350z

Interesting opinion on the new z from Doug Demuro, seems like he likes everything but the front grill like everyone else lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCp-PaCRjEs

SOUTHZZ

I pretty much agree on Doug's comments.
Again,the PROTO is a work in progress.It does look more done than not to me.
I suggest to many to look at the PROTO.the overall design flows quite well.
We do seem to be in the big grille era of design. Everyone is doing them.
Ironically,there is a post today showing a white 400Z with Nismo touches.
Hate to say it,this stuff just hides the overall design of the PROTO.

Sometimes less is more,right?

takemorepills

Do modern Z's not have a rear window wiper? Or is that just the Proto doesn't have one yet?

BoilardZ

I wouldn't worry too much about small missing creature comforts like a rear wiper. Note how it doesn't even have a homelink rearview mirror. I think they just haven't yet gotten to the stage of adding those necessary finishing touches.

Andaesthetics

I think Nissan is really putting it all on the line with the new Z and they are going to do everything they can to make it a success. This car needs to be a success and they know it needs to be. I believe they will redesign some elements of the Z. Namely the current designs people have the biggest gripes about. They are going to look at the data and the comments from their current and potential future consumers and make those adjustments. They can't risk producing a sports car (especially in today's market) that people won't absolutely love or at least like. That would be financial suicide for them at this point.

The key to success is listening to what their OVERALL consumer base wants. If they don't they might as well pack up and call it quits now.

Only non-US spec Zs do I believe.

terrapirata

For those who didn't like the yellow, what about white with some Nismo touches?






(edit: never mind, I just saw somebody post this renders a day ago, this thread is growing so fast lol)

cooltoy

Terrible Photoshop.

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JARblue

Do you even chop?

Let's see what you got!

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SOUTHZZ

Was curious.The results did not surprise me.

What? the NUMBERS.

I guess it's human nature to ask for something if its not on your dime.
Some of you have never run your own business. Think of yourself running a car business.

Here are some round numbers that show units sold in a specific year for the U.S.:

350z
2003-------50,000 (incl.units sold in 2002)

2008-------10,000

370z
2009-------13,000

2019-------2,400

Data shows the drop in sales from the beginning to end.
Reasons?LAck of interest,competion,economy etc.
So,based on today's world,COVID,economy,protests,election etc,etc,to not play it
rich.
Makes sense for a car company to play it cheap and use as many smoke &mirrors they can.Call in the marketing guys...

Still,cannot wait for a 400Z to arrive at a dealer.I'm guessing,based on my past experience and the current level of "sales" personnel at a dealership,you will not find much in the way of many that will have knowledge about the 400Z.
My experience:In 2002,I went shopping for a 350Z.Went to 8 Nissan dealerships before
anyone had any knowledge about the car other than it was for sale.At dealer 8,the sales
mgr.was a car guy and handled my sale.Color I wanted had to be ordered.Took almost 3 months to arrive.

Andaesthetics

Something that caught my eye is that the Z proto front bumper honestly looks similar to the Stillen front end.

I am willing to bet that the side "pockets" or "crevices" of the Z Proto will become side vents. Imagine if they were able to create a "tunnel" that led to the engine bay into the intakes from the side vent or to just help with cooling in general.

Then just reshape the grille, change the bottom lip to black,and add a body colored design that is recessed in the grille so that way it doesn't look strange from the side profile but changes the front view.

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Here is my rendition of what I'm describing here:

I brought down the headlight scoop design lines toward the front grille. This gives it a more 240z like appearance AND more aggressive as it flows with the design of the front hood into the grille. I think the current design almost looks like a sleepy-eyed "tired" looking car. Where as my new render here looks awake and aggressive. I also added a small "recessed" body colored grille right below the top front lip. And of course "removing" the front bottom lip or simply blacking it out.

Let me know what you guys think!

EDIT: Added some 3/4 and side angle renders to get an idea as well. From the side it wouldn't change very much at all. Still keep the same elegant flow but more aggressive now.

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cooltoy

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Malachy

looks too much like stinger, can someone photoshop the v1 nismo bumper style? ( AND duckbill wing on rear)
BTW LOVE the REAR. reminds me of my first car, 97 240sx