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z-ya-later 02-01-2021 08:42 AM

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Was looking through Nissan's site and looks like they're holding a virtual reveal and Q&A on Feb 4th at 1pm EST involving the Z Proto and ARIYA:

https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/future-concept.html

Interesting that they're using images of the Frontier and Pathfinder. Guess they're showcasing a few other vehicles as well. Hope we get some info on a release date, HP/torque, trim levels, and pricing.

EDIT: Reveal for Frontier and Pathfinder with a cameo by the Z

viiv 02-02-2021 04:49 AM

Looks like you won't have long to buy a Z35 with the VR30TT. The gasoline only Z will be discontinued around 2025! The Z35 will then become a hybrid until the end of its lifecycle in 2030 using the same hybrid power train to be introduced in the Infiniti Q50/Q60 in 2024-2025. If there is a Z36 after that, it will be an EV. (via Google translate):



Impact of Nissan's all-new car electrification policy !! Can Fairlady Z and GT-R survive !? Next model and whereabouts of survival
February 2, 2021 / News



All new cars launched by Nissan from the early 2030s will be electrified! What will happen to Nissan's next-generation sports models, the "GT-R" and "Fairlady Z," which represent Japan, and beyond?

On January 27th, Nissan announced a release on carbon neutrality. Among them, it is clear that "from the early 2030s, we will further actively promote the adoption of electrification technology by making all new models to be launched in the main markets of Japan, China, the United States, and Europe into electric vehicles."

As a result, the GT-R and Fairlady Z, which are sports models, will have to be electrified in the next generation in order to survive.

As fuel economy and noise regulations are tightened, the current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year, and the next Z will be hybridized. Below, Mr. Mitsuhiro Kunisawa explains.


The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year.

Nissan has stated that it has set a carbon-neutral target for 2050 and that it will make all new models launched in major markets from the early 2030s electric vehicles.

In other words, it will clear both the 2050 carbon neutral that Prime Minister Suga announced in his statement of belief and the Tokyo Governor Koike's "stop selling pure gasoline in 2035." Appearance with both faces.

I would like to analyze the specific content. First of all, what is worrisome for car lovers is the trend of the GT-R and the next Fairlady Z, which has already announced its style.

Although it is a GT-R, it seems that it cannot clear "Phase 3" of the noise regulation that will come into effect from 2022. The criteria for Phase 3 are extremely strict, and the power unit must be "almost silent".

No, even if the noise from the power unit can be reduced, the regulation cannot be cleared by the tire running noise with high-performance tires. The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of 2021.

By the way, it is strict because it is obligatory to clear noise regulations and even continuous production vehicles. If you are thinking of purchasing the GT-R, order it before the discontinuation is announced.

The next GT-R will be a pure EV !? Tesla now releases the Model S with over 1000 horsepower

The next GT-R will be reborn as an EV sports car like the Porsche Taycan and Tesla Model S (expected CG created by the best car)
When asked if there is a next-generation GT-R, answer "Yes!" Without any reason. There are many opinions within Nissan that "GT-R is necessary", and maybe it has already started development for commercial use.


Of course, I don't think it's a half-finished eco-friendly car like a hybrid or PHV. Even if such a power unit is released in 2025, it will only sell for 5 years.

Naturally it will be a pure electric car. High-performance cars can now be made even as electric cars. On the contrary, the electric car may be more suitable for GT-R.

The Tesla Model S has a minor change to increase the motor output to 1020 horsepower! Since the maximum speed is 320km / h, it surpasses the current GT-R and accelerates from 0 to 100km / h in 2.1 seconds! 

2.1 seconds is different from the story and dimension that GT-R is less than 3 seconds. It's faster than the acceleration of an F1 car. The new Tesla Roadster is 0-100km / h in 2 seconds. It is said that it will take less than 9 seconds with 0-400m acceleration.

Just as the current GT-R aimed for the fastest Nürburgring on the market, the new GT-R would be interesting if it aimed for a car faster than Tesla.

Nissan is also developing an all-solid-state battery that has more than three times the performance of current lithium-ion batteries. If realized, it is possible to have higher performance than Tesla. For electric vehicles, the only noise regulation is tires.

I managed to clear it, and I can afford the corporate average fuel consumption CAFE2030. It is an electrified vehicle certified by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, and can continue until it is carbon-free in 2050.

New Fairlady Z from pure gasoline specifications to HV


How about the Fairlady Z, which is scheduled to be released in 2022? This car is a model that was considered to be sold in the United States, which had become a fuel economy regulation for Yuruyuru during President Trump's time.

That's why both the platform and the engine combine existing items. However, he became President Biden and changed his policy 180 degrees. We are about to become an environmentally friendly country.

Probably not thinking about selling for a long time from the beginning. At most 5 years. No, the Fairlady Z, which runs only on the engine for about 3 years at the shortest, has no model life.

In the second or third year, it will be upgraded to the same hybrid as the Skyline (Infiniti Q50), and it will be sold until around 2030 when strict fuel efficiency regulations will start.


Nissan is solid with EV + e-POWER! The question is "whether you can make a fun car"

Announced carbon neutral goals for 2050. Announced the innovation of batteries including new e-POWER and all-solid-state batteries, the utilization of renewable energy and the development of recycling technology to achieve the goal.
It may be disappointing to read this far, but I don't think it will be dark tomorrow for Nissan. This is because Nissan is good at electrification technology. The 2030 CAFE, which has become a strict regulation value, can be sufficiently cleared with an electric vehicle + e-POWER.

At the time of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government regulation in 2035, it would be all electrified. No, is it an all-electric environment before 2030?

There is no problem with making all carbon-free cars in 2050 electric vehicles. I think that I announced the goal setting like the beginning of the sentence because I have already made a long-term plan such as.

 
The question is whether we can make a fun car. Considering only practicality, price competition will occur. However, if you can create a brand image, you can sell high value-added products.

Let's say you made a women's bag with similar materials and functions. 100,000 yen for famous European brands. A Japanese bag costs 20,000 yen at most. I think the same is true for electric vehicles.

If you are making popular products, you cannot beat China. I think it will be important to be able to create high value. If it can be realized, Nissan will prosper, and it will be tough if it comes to compete in price competition.

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/243426

-ZS-Carpenter 02-02-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3984227)
[B]Looks like you won't have long to buy a Z35 with the VR30TT.


So like around the normal amount of time most models are on sale for? Did you want another embarrassing 12 year run?

Unlike most of the dinos running around here I find the hybrid interesting. The next GTR should be a hybrid following in the footsteps of the hyper-hybrids already out. As more and more high performance hybrids hit the road you need to be on board or left behind.

Cyber370 02-02-2021 11:15 AM

New Z delayed to 2023.

https://daxstreet.com/cars/1925/niss...-need-to-know/

FPenvy 02-02-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3984266)

......who the fook is daxstreet.com?

:facepalm:

if they delay the Z past coming out in 2021 it is dead. just dont even release it and waste your time.

Cyber370 02-02-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3984289)
......who the fook is daxstreet.com?

:facepalm:

if they delay the Z past coming out in 2021 it is dead. just dont even release it and waste your time.

It’s a legit site. Other car news sites are now reporting the same including Carbuzz:


https://carbuzz.com/news/nissan-400z...-images-emerge

I agree with you. This does not look good for the new Z’s future.

Hotrodz 02-02-2021 04:48 PM

Nissan will not be the only one in this boat. Automobile manufacturing has hit the skids due to the pandemic and trade issues. Production of car parts were cut due to the refocus manufacturing mask ventilators and other stuff. Micro chips were redirect for other products such as Xbox an PS. I just literally just got out of a Zoom meeting with fleet representative that gave us a presentation on the state of affairs within the auto industry so if you have a late model car that needs repair now or in the future....buckle up! No pun intended.

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Rusty 02-02-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3984303)
Nissan will not be the only one in this boat. Automobile manufacturing has hit the skids due to the pandemic and trade issues. Production of car parts were cut due to the refocus manufacturing mask ventilators and other stuff. Micro chips were redirect for other products such as Xbox an PS. I just literally just got out of a Zoom meeting with fleet representative that gave us a presentation on the state of affairs within the auto industry so if you have a late model car that needs repair now or in the future....buckle up! No pun intended.

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Couple weeks ago. A couple of auto manufactories shut down production because of lack of chips.

takemorepills 02-02-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3984300)
It’s a legit site. Other car news sites are now reporting the same including Carbuzz:


https://carbuzz.com/news/nissan-400z...-images-emerge

I agree with you. This does not look good for the new Z’s future.

"Aug 28, 2020" Story is a bit old.

Not saying the Z won't be further delayed, just saying that old story doesn't back up the more recent one, which may have in fact referenced that old story.

I ain't getting any younger and Biden ain't getting any less senile!

280driver 02-03-2021 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3984266)

This is false.

takemorepills 02-03-2021 09:29 AM

Well, turns out Nissan is hitting the pause button on truck manufacturing right now, citing chip supplies.

Rusty 02-03-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 3984422)
Well, turns out Nissan is hitting the pause button on truck manufacturing right now, citing chip supplies.

Your late. See post 6208.

280driver 02-03-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 3984422)
Well, turns out Nissan is hitting the pause button on truck manufacturing right now, citing chip supplies.

Right, as did Ford, Toyota, Volkswagen and Fiat.........

takemorepills 02-03-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3984437)
Your late. See post 6208.

I am not late. Nissan and other manufacturers had already made broad statements abount supply constrictions, last night is when Nissan added "trucks" the the affected vehicles.

Anyways, it's a mess. I hope at that Q & A tomorrow they will inform us of when the Z will be available.
I'm done hearing about the "emotion" of the design process!

triso07 02-04-2021 10:30 AM

Yeah time to release some details. The design stuff has worn very thin at this point.

Andaesthetics 02-04-2021 12:48 PM

New Navy Grey Color

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR1wD00FBpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS6_-wf7zeg


New video on details of the Z.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0YAucVdvk

More information coming later this year.

Ricochet48 02-04-2021 07:38 PM

What a let down, basically no new information...

Toyota might introduce a manual for the 2.0T, the WRX might actually get modern, and the new 2 series BMW is looking good. I hope Nissan actually gives this Z a chance.

thekinn 02-04-2021 08:53 PM

Who knows.. these people say they know what engine will be in it, and it will be released later this year.?

Infiniti 400 Red Sport engine confirmed for Nissan Z Proto

https://autos.yahoo.com/infiniti-400...203600312.html

Ben Hsu
Thu, February 4, 2021, 2:36 PM·2 min read




There has been much speculation about the Nissan Z Proto's engine. We've long suspected that the Z concept was powered by the 400-horsepower twin-turbo V6 from the Infiniti 400 Red Sport series. Now that hunch has been confirmed by photos of the Z Proto's engine bay.

Though it's a fully running concept, Nissan has never opened the hood of the Z Proto for the press. However, a lucky photog happened to be at the Nissan Crossing showroom in the ritzy Ginza shopping district of Tokyo just as workers had the hood popped. The venue is a popular showcase for Nissan's latest and greatest, and displays rotate frequently. This looks like an after-hours change over, but Instagrammer layersworks was able to take a few shots through the large picture window.

While the engine cover on the Z Proto is different than the one shrouding the Infiniti Q50 and Q60 400 Red Sport, there are other clues that point to the VR30DDTT. The biggest one are the three coolant caps situated at the front of the engine bay. With two staggered ones on the left of the image and one on the right, they're positioned exactly like they are in the Infiniti. Between the two columns of caps, there are coolant hoses in the same orientation as on the Infiniti.

The engines are known to be underrated from the factory by respected tuners, and put out at-the-wheels horsepower ratings that are close to or match the official figures taken at the crankshaft. Since its introduction in 2016, there have also been a slew of aftermarket options made available. All this is to say that the Nissan Z could be a performance bargain.

Nissan has confirmed that the Z will go on sale later this year.

via The Drive.

viiv 02-12-2021 05:54 AM

Pretty much the most reliable news outlet in Japan says March 2022 release date for the Z (which aligns with the job 1 production start in January 2022 Carmaker1 and NissanFreak81 have reported):

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/246804


Also, a refresh with a mild-hybrid for the GTR by the end of next year.


Disclaimer: while this is what is PLANNED, still not holding my breath as Nissan executives could pull the plug on those plans at any time with the red ink and pandemic.

Andaesthetics 02-28-2021 10:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1eVHd-H0Tw

New close-up video. Said it before but I'll say it again; the more videos I see of the car, the more I'm liking it. Would love to see it in other body colors. I think it's gonna look wicked in black.

EDIT: 8:40 to see it driving.

z-ya-later 03-10-2021 12:25 AM

Another 1:

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tvfreakazoid 03-10-2021 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 3985448)
Pretty much the most reliable news outlet in Japan says March 2022 release date for the Z (which aligns with the job 1 production start in January 2022 Carmaker1 and NissanFreak81 have reported):

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/246804


Also, a refresh with a mild-hybrid for the GTR by the end of next year.


Disclaimer: while this is what is PLANNED, still not holding my breath as Nissan executives could pull the plug on those plans at any time with the red ink and pandemic.

For the gtr, are those just artist renderings? I assume so.
What did they say the power was going to be?

I'll be in my bunk!

Andaesthetics 03-22-2021 02:33 PM

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OFFICIAL NEW Z REVEALED *LEAKED*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rFz5e-nMA

NOTICE they changed the color of the oval shapes in the grille to body color. Really helps get rid of that rectangle shape. Also added a small spoiler on the hatch. Take my money NOW!!!

EDIT* AUTOMATIC shifter in the interior pictures on this one. Also gun metal wheels and the brakes look like the 4 piston Akebonos from the current 370Z.

EDIT2* After looking over more carefully you can see sensors in the front and rear bumpers as well as a big square detection sensor in the grill for driver assistance. Red side reflector on the rear and amber reflector on the side of the headlights. The carbon fiber appears to be replaced with regular black plastic trim as well.

takemorepills 03-22-2021 02:56 PM

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Oh hell yes!

1/4atatime 03-22-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3989486)
OFFICAL NEW Z REVEALED *LEAKED*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rFz5e-nMA

NOTICE they changed the color of the oval shapes in the grille to body color. Really helps get rid of that rectangle shape. Also added a small spoiler on the hatch. Take my money NOW!!!

EDIT* AUTOMATIC shifter in the interior pictures on this one. Also gun metal wheels and the brakes look like the 4 piston Akebonos from the current 370Z.

EDIT2* After looking over more carefully you can see sensors in the front and rear bumpers as well as a big square detection sensor in the grill for driver assistance. Red side reflector on the rear and amber reflector on the side of the headlights. The carbon fiber appears to be replaced with regular black plastic trim as well.

Ok now the Z looks fire in this color. The spoiler on the rear really ties it together. However honest opinion I don't think I'd buy one. The reason is simple I can almost guarantee I will be able to make one on my existing 370z much cheaper than I can buy one. The chassis is the same basically so if I wanted I should be able to take the body panels off the 400z and put them on the 370z (or someone will make a body kit) I can already drop a vr30 in the 370z for cheap (those motors are not expensive) and I enjoy the physical guages more than the digital ones in the interior. Add in the cost increase we will see and I bet I could do it a good bit cheaper than buying a new one and selling my old one.

Edit: So taking the Maxima price increase it got for 2009 to 2021 model it's a 7k increase for the base model. I expect the same or more for the Z which in my opinion isn't going to fly with consumers.

Andaesthetics 03-22-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3989494)
Ok now the Z looks fire in this color. The spoiler on the rear really ties it together. However honest opinion I don't think I'd buy one. The reason is simple I can almost guarantee I will be able to make one on my existing 370z much cheaper than I can buy one. The chassis is the same basically so if I wanted I should be able to take the body panels off the 400z and put them on the 370z (or someone will make a body kit) I can already drop a vr30 in the 370z for cheap (those motors are not expensive) and I enjoy the physical guages more than the digital ones in the interior. Add in the cost increase we will see and I bet I could do it a good bit cheaper than buying a new one and selling my old one.

Edit: So taking the Maxima price increase it got for 2009 to 2021 model it's a 7k increase for the base model. I expect the same or more for the Z which in my opinion isn't going to fly with consumers.

"Leaks" are saying that the car will start under $40k. Under $40k for a sports car with a likely 400hp and updated tech is a damn good deal. I can't imagine anyone complaining about that absolute bargain compared to the Supra.

viiv 03-22-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3989498)
"Leaks" are saying that the car will start under $40k. Under $40k for a sports car with a likely 400hp and updated tech is a damn good deal. I can't imagine anyone complaining about that absolute bargain compared to the Supra.

Under 40k means $39,998.

pakman370z 03-22-2021 05:18 PM

I like what I'm seeing. I wonder how the monthly lease rates will look.

Lvcky69 03-22-2021 05:19 PM

400z with different color. Sadly this one is auto

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/20...looks-amazing/

Andaesthetics 03-22-2021 05:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmV4cELfI-I

Also noticed that body pillars and roof line are body color instead of black. And the car is in LA right now as he said.

He calls it "400Z" but I don't see any emblems or badging anywhere to confirm that.

1/4atatime 03-22-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3989498)
"Leaks" are saying that the car will start under $40k. Under $40k for a sports car with a likely 400hp and updated tech is a damn good deal. I can't imagine anyone complaining about that absolute bargain compared to the Supra.

I know I've read tons of comments on other sites of people saying they won't spend 40k+ on a low-mid trim level Nissan. I don't think it's so much the price to performance that's the problem but rather peoples perceptions of spending 40k on a Nissan. Nissan really damaged they reputation when they had issues with their transmission, started basically signing payment plans to anyone who walked through the door, and started trying to cheap out on their cars. I know lots of people that used to buy Nissan cars but won't touch them with a 10ft poll anymore everyone says they felt cheap to them. I really like my 370Z but lets be real here the 370z didn't sell that many especially compared to the 350z. And not even enough to have Nissan consider refreshing it for a decade. Those sales numbers for the 370z especially the last few years are no where near enough to make Nissan consider selling another one if this one sells the same. And no one can say sports cars can't sell in large amount just look at the C8 it's selling faster than any other car in the lot. Heck the Supra which everyone claims doesn't sell well outsold the 370z 3:1

1/4atatime 03-22-2021 06:12 PM

O good more chip delays looks like a fire at one of the chip manufactures for Nissan https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56486242

NissanFreak81 03-22-2021 06:14 PM

Finally some better colors. I want the gunmetal with the black roof. Like the spoiler on the back as well. Hope the carbon fiber diffuser from the proto is a option to add. Overall, loving it.

Rusty 03-22-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3989514)
O good more chip delays looks like a fire at one of the chip manufactures for Nissan https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56486242

Ford is building F150's with no computers in them. They are letting them sit until they can get the computers. :icon14:

takemorepills 03-22-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3989494)
Ok now the Z looks fire in this color. The spoiler on the rear really ties it together. However honest opinion I don't think I'd buy one. The reason is simple I can almost guarantee I will be able to make one on my existing 370z much cheaper than I can buy one. The chassis is the same basically so if I wanted I should be able to take the body panels off the 400z and put them on the 370z (or someone will make a body kit) I can already drop a vr30 in the 370z for cheap (those motors are not expensive) and I enjoy the physical guages more than the digital ones in the interior. Add in the cost increase we will see and I bet I could do it a good bit cheaper than buying a new one and selling my old one.

Edit: So taking the Maxima price increase it got for 2009 to 2021 model it's a 7k increase for the base model. I expect the same or more for the Z which in my opinion isn't going to fly with consumers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3989508)
I know I've read tons of comments on other sites of people saying they won't spend 40k+ on a low-mid trim level Nissan. I don't think it's so much the price to performance that's the problem but rather peoples perceptions of spending 40k on a Nissan. Nissan really damaged they reputation when they had issues with their transmission, started basically signing payment plans to anyone who walked through the door, and started trying to cheap out on their cars. I know lots of people that used to buy Nissan cars but won't touch them with a 10ft poll anymore everyone says they felt cheap to them. I really like my 370Z but lets be real here the 370z didn't sell that many especially compared to the 350z. And not even enough to have Nissan consider refreshing it for a decade. Those sales numbers for the 370z especially the last few years are no where near enough to make Nissan consider selling another one if this one sells the same. And no one can say sports cars can't sell in large amount just look at the C8 it's selling faster than any other car in the lot. Heck the Supra which everyone claims doesn't sell well outsold the 370z 3:1

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3989514)
O good more chip delays looks like a fire at one of the chip manufactures for Nissan https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56486242

Man 1/4, you seem really conflicted here! 1st you are gonna just do a panel swap (good luck with rear end and 1/4's). Then lament the "quality issues" of Nissan. But, obviously you do like this car enough to pay attention to chip shortages! (BTW, please don't think I am picking on you, I can tell you actually secretly like the car)

I predict the 300Z Twin Turbo (400Z) will sell more than the 370Z. I've been a Z guy for a long time, and I have tolerated Nissan QC issues for a LONG time also! I've owned my Titan forever and love it, have had Z31, Z32, S12 V6's, Maximas, QX4, Q60, etc. I quickly dismissed the 350Z as too "plasticky" with way too much Renault vibes going on, and I also considered the 370Z as somewhat ugly....and I was also resenting that Nissan wasn't building Twin Turbos anymore.
Well, here we are. I am DEFINITELY buying a 300Z Twin Turbo.
There isn't anything wrong with the Z34 chassis (to me, IMO). It was ugly and un-boosted, now it is way less ugly, Twin-Turbo'ed and called Z35 (probably).

I feel the price will be OK. The new TLX-S (another car I am mulling...my other Japanese car love was the Vigor and Legends) is going to be "low-50's" according to Acura. True, it'll be AWD and 4 door, it's more of a Q50 AWD 300HP killer. The upcoming IS500 (another car I really really like....reliability!) will be in the 60's supposedly.
If a 400+HP 300Z Twin Turbo is what we get at low $40's, for a low-volume, twin turbo, 2 seater heritage car, I am totally happy. I feel it is a fair price.
The power, if 400HP+, will be outstanding, the interior is WAYYYYY better than the 370Z (I do agree with you on the instrument cluster, I too would prefer real gauges over LCD) and the car is really very basic for a 2022 vehicle. It still has a hand brake, even with the auto. I think even the CTR has an EPB.
Nissan has made GREAT improvements in the interior quality lately, now that Ghosn is gone I think the cheapness at Nissan is gone too.

I will do whatever it takes to get one of these cars without ADM.

1/4atatime 03-22-2021 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 3989520)
Man 1/4, you seem really conflicted here! 1st you are gonna just do a panel swap (good luck with rear end and 1/4's). Then lament the "quality issues" of Nissan. But, obviously you do like this car enough to pay attention to chip shortages! (BTW, please don't think I am picking on you, I can tell you actually secretly like the car)

I predict the 300Z Twin Turbo (400Z) will sell more than the 370Z. I've been a Z guy for a long time, and I have tolerated Nissan QC issues for a LONG time also! I've owned my Titan forever and love it, have had Z31, Z32, S12 V6's, Maximas, QX4, Q60, etc. I quickly dismissed the 350Z as too "plasticky" with way too much Renault vibes going on, and I also considered the 370Z as somewhat ugly....and I was also resenting that Nissan wasn't building Twin Turbos anymore.
Well, here we are. I am DEFINITELY buying a 300Z Twin Turbo.
There isn't anything wrong with the Z34 chassis (to me, IMO). It was ugly and un-boosted, now it is way less ugly, Twin-Turbo'ed and called Z35 (probably).

I feel the price will be OK. The new TLX-S (another car I am mulling...my other Japanese car love was the Vigor and Legends) is going to be "low-50's" according to Acura. True, it'll be AWD and 4 door, it's more of a Q50 AWD 300HP killer. The upcoming IS500 (another car I really really like....reliability!) will be in the 60's supposedly.
If a 400+HP 300Z Twin Turbo is what we get at low $40's, for a low-volume, twin turbo, 2 seater heritage car, I am totally happy. I feel it is a fair price.
The power, if 400HP+, will be outstanding, the interior is WAYYYYY better than the 370Z (I do agree with you on the instrument cluster, I too would prefer real gauges over LCD) and the car is really very basic for a 2022 vehicle. It still has a hand brake, even with the auto. I think even the CTR has an EPB.
Nissan has made GREAT improvements in the interior quality lately, now that Ghosn is gone I think the cheapness at Nissan is gone too.

I will do whatever it takes to get one of these cars without ADM.

I don't think your picking on me at all. I'm honestly just being slightly harsh on the car. Mainly because I was hoping we would get something more than just a heavy refresh (although I knew it wouldn't happen with Nissans financial issues). I think for new people looking to get into this will be good if Nissans quality has really come up and there are enough dealerships not going bankrupt to take on inventory for people to get hands on time with. However for people with existing cars in some ways this is cool because our cars aren't obsolete. Instead we can buy a vr30 motor drop it in and get the same performance as the new Z or we can go full turbo and make a 1500+hp monster like SOHO is doing. I want the new Z to succeed but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about Nissans future especially with covid-19 and chip shortages. I'm definitely going to try and take a test drive in one for sure but I'd probably put that cash towards a full turbo system. The 370z still looks so amazing even after 10 years on the road and I hope the already slightly polarizing body style on the 400z makes just as much of an impression.

goeagles11 03-22-2021 09:18 PM

New pics look amazing. Well done Nissan.

FPenvy 03-23-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3989507)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmV4cELfI-I

Also noticed that body pillars and roof line are body color instead of black. And the car is in LA right now as he said.

He calls it "400Z" but I don't see any emblems or badging anywhere to confirm that.

badges are all covered in his pics and videos.

also, i like the little lip spoiler actually makes the rear look better than without one.

i noticed it doesnt have GTR brakes on this model. makes me wonder if they were for show or a special higher trim level like the Nismo.

steering wheel looks really weird like the top half is way to large of an opening.

1/4atatime 03-23-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3989568)
badges are all covered in his pics and videos.

also, i like the little lip spoiler actually makes the rear look better than without one.

i noticed it doesnt have GTR brakes on this model. makes me wonder if they were for show or a special higher trim level like the Nismo.

steering wheel looks really weird like the top half is way to large of an opening.

This looks like a lower trim to me. I am thinking this is the base model and I have a feeling it will have lower HP. I'm thinking 350~375hp for the base and the price will be right under 40k like $39,995 the sport .model will get a hp increase to ~400hp with gtr brakes and other stuff for $43k~ Nismo version will be 450hp for right under $50k but that's just my guess.

Houston Z33 03-23-2021 08:45 AM

Kinda shocked these popped up in LA, I heard Job #1 wasn't until 01/03/22 with ordering to open up 08/15/21.

Base MSRP will be $34,999

Base gets Akebonos, Sport/Nismo gets Brembos - No more floating calipers.

All cars get the 400hp Flavor of VR30

US Name = Nissan Z, no numbers this time

Dry Weight = 3,252lbs

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Originally Posted by Houston Z33 (Post 3160501)
To touch back on the interior subject, Frankly the Z34 is just as "Luxurious" as a sports car needs to be - Only thing I can think of to add is A/C seats to the Coupe (why is this Roadster only?!)

Tech wise we're pretty damned outdated as well - Case in point....To this day we still need the Nav Package to stream BT Audio while the current Altima can stream it with no problem, without nav....My Wife's '15 Sonata Limited is mind blowing. The car damned near drives itself and it starts at 20k is about 30k fully dolled up like hers is.

Also, Hyundai BlueLink is BAD. ***. I really hope Nissan steps it's game up and adds something like this to it's lineup.

Power wise if we don't have 400+ HP, We're a failure - No questions asked....the V8s are kissing 450hp out the box nowadays.

IMO the 370Z was damned near perfect, it just needed more power.

Looks like I got what I asked for 6 years ago lol


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