I'd like to also add the biggest thing Nissan needs to fix in moving forward with the Z........

stop it with the horrible fuckin option/package setup.

the 2009-2014 was fine. then this whole no touring with sport no this with that you cant have what you actually want with this is just retarded.

If I cant have sport package stuff, with good seats, and my nav..........I wont buy one. that's so dumb how they handcuffed the cars to being eh or ehhh

I bet that continues into the next one especially if the car pushes the $60k price range.

if it continues as is with a higher price point they are shooting themselves in the foot. that or driving people towards a Q50/60.

I would happily take my money elsewhere where things like good brakes and interior options are standard.

the fact that they have a stripped out cheap version hurts the rest of it since they changed over all the options to not be able to have both.

all it really did was force people who wanted both to bump up to a nismo tech which is the highest priced version.

Oh I agree with you but I don't have too much faith in Nissan and their ideas with this car when it comes to options with the current and future Z's.

I mean from their side of the issue its smart for funnel people like me into buying the top dollar car.

I will also admit if this was now I would get the nismo tech.

I hate the nismo kit from 2009-2014. the new body of the 2015/16 I do really like and the seats are sexy. throw in the nav which also lead me away from the nismo initially and you got me back.

sooooo if the next Z nismo has good seats like the present nismo reacaros, nav, and a choice of the better AT tranny, and good body kit that's what I'd buy lo.

I liked the Nismo kit from 2013-2016 but I have a base with a spoiler which makes me wish that I bought a Nismo from the get go. Not sure if it's worth $10k to $15k worth it to have all the extras but they sure do look bad a$$.

not me lol once the 2015 nismo changed completely was the first time I liked a nismo.

When I was at the dealership getting my spoiler put on they had a 2016 white Nismo on the show room floor. So damn nice.

yea with the red accents that are part of the kit I think I could only go with pearl white or maybe black. I really don't think I want a black vehicle again though. such a fuckin pain lol

White would be easier to keep looking clean than black. Mine is Gun Metallic and I spend A LOT of time trying to keep it clean, black would give me fits. The color combo on the white pearl looks awesome.

well keeping clean is one thing but I wash mine twice a week typically.

its more about the atrocity of Nissan paint. black would just swirl up instantly and chips/scratches would show up so much easier.

a friend of mine (a bit more OCD than most including myself) has had his black Z painted I believe 6 times now? give or take lol

Nissan is fvckin up all types of ways. We really need the new Z sooner than later. But C & D's "isolated incident" and Nissan's lackadaisical attempt to NOT deal with the CSC failure properly has lead to the downfall of this car with new buyers. Though most complaints are really bunk and C&D trumped to push people into BMW's and Honda's. (C&D is so bought/rigged by 3 companies, GM, BMW &Honda) but I digress... In some ways... I'm beginning to see how Nissan may potentially giving up. They camaro has set a new standard at $40,000. Even in their v6 cars... Nissan is gonna have a lot to prove... and I hope they don't take the cowards way out n just not build a new car. Subaru still makes an ST'I though it's not popular like before. Nissan can still make a Z.

The Z is still the best handling car from 300-500hp under $50,000. That's why I'm still in one. They joy of driving this car is AMAZING...

But, that said. I can't ignore Nissan's shittiness in certain aspects

Black paint scares me to own :rofl2:

what about the new Camaro? lol

I've had a few black vehicles. so happy I went with blue for the Z lol