Intelligent Key System Warning Light...

Forrest · 12-14-2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

but doesn't the BCM suppose to handshake with the steering lock first, then tells the ECU the car's ready to start?

tell the dealer to check the steering lock revision. there's a barcode on the unit they can scan to get datecode and revision number. If your car has RevA or RevB, it needs to be changed.

also remember that this problem seems to occure more when the battery is weaker (colder weather, some cars with 3yr old poorly maintained batteries). if your battery has better cca due to warmer day, etc. chances are it can make the failed unit work again temporarily.

The ECU is just what they said over the phone. They have not even seen the car yet. It was just a wild guess/possibility.

I didn’t realize there was a proper way to maintain the battery. How does one maintenance a car battery. I get my oil changes at the dealership every time.

kenchan · 12-14-2011, 06:05 PM

the battery need to be charged and floated when not in use. especially if your car is a hobby car like mine it needs to be on a battery manager (battery tender) during the week or during hibernation.

my dd (G35C) is also on battery manager on the weekends. my short 22mile round trip commute (where half is bumper to bumper) is not enough to charge the battery. my car is 7.5yrs old and still running factory battery.

Forrest · 12-14-2011, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

the battery need to be charged and floated when not in use. especially if your car is a hobby car like mine it needs to be on a battery manager (battery tender) during the week or during hibernation.

my dd (G35C) is also on battery manager on the weekends. my short 22mile round trip commute (where half is bumper to bumper) is not enough to charge the battery. my car is 7.5yrs old and still running factory battery.

I use my car every day of the year. Normal size trips.

kenchan · 12-14-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest

I use my car every day of the year. Normal size trips.

yah, most car batteries seems to only last about 3-4yrs these days under normal use. in favorable climate it might last longer but not by much.

weak battery apparently contributes to the failure but not the root cause.

xSaintx · 12-16-2011, 04:54 PM

This just happened to me today. On the way to work this morning and I stop to get some gas. No issues. Get back into the car and press start and uh oh, nothing. I tried both keys and a jump, but still nothing. I got a flatbed tow to the dealership and luckily for me, it was RIGHT across the street. Unlucky for me, it turns out it was my steering lock unit malfunctioning and costs $800 bucks for them to order and it won't come in for a week. They have no loner cars available either. I love it.

kenchan · 12-17-2011, 10:47 AM

sorry to hear xsaintx. so you locked your car when you stopped in for gas? or left the door unlocked?

im starting to think keeping the doors unlocked doesn't help cause the steering locks anyway when the car is turned off...

paigeone · 12-17-2011, 12:01 PM

got my car back on tuesday after being towed to dealer.the turn around was one day.they overnighted the part,installed next day. all work covered under warranty.the dealership i have been taking my z is not were i got the car. were i go for service is "mod" friendly. they were the ones that installed my f.i. exhaust. so hats off to fread beans nissan in limerick pa.

kenchan · 12-17-2011, 12:26 PM

^^ sounds great, paigeone! at least your dealer did watever they could to make a bad situation go much much smoother.

kyrick · 12-19-2011, 09:56 AM

My 2010 with 7200 miles died in a Wal-Mart lot Friday afternoon. The key emblem lit up and brake pedal stiff and locked in park. Had it hauled to dealer Sat morning. Hope for Mon or Tues fix. At least it is still under warranty.

Megan370z · 12-19-2011, 11:34 AM

ohhh well, on my first day of Christmas vacation , I have that same problem that you guys have been dealing with !!

FML!!!!!!
the Z is waiting for the towing and then process his way to the dealership !
I'm about 3000kms from my warranty to expire ! thats a good timing after all and my steering lock assy is #48700-JF00B

the key warning light has been on for a bit over a week now and it is stuck in the Lock position with the steering wheel unlock.

kenchan · 12-19-2011, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyrick

My 2010 with 7200 miles died in a Wal-Mart lot Friday afternoon. The key emblem lit up and brake pedal stiff and locked in park. Had it hauled to dealer Sat morning. Hope for Mon or Tues fix. At least it is still under warranty.

sorry to hear. let us know your car's build date. So far up to Oct 2009 build has been affected on the 2010's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z

ohhh well, on my first day of Christmas vacation , I have that same problem that you guys have been dealing with !!

FML!!!!!!
the Z is waiting for the towing and then process his way to the dealership !
I'm about 3000kms from my warranty to expire ! thats a good timing after all and my steering lock assy is #48700-JF00B

the key warning light has been on for a bit over a week now and it is stuck in the Lock position with the steering wheel unlock.

sorry to hear about this as well. thanks for the info megan on the lock assy!

GaleForce · 12-19-2011, 12:34 PM

At the rate these are failing on this forum alone, I hope Nissan would "goodwill" those with problems out of warranty in the future...

kenchan · 12-19-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce

At the rate these are failing on this forum alone, I hope Nissan would "goodwill" those with problems out of warranty in the future...

i hope they just do a recall for all affected Z's regardless of warranty and be done with this non-sense.

it's bad enough nissan used the same bad parts on affected non-GTR cars and did not 'drill deep and wide' on this quality issue. i am 99.99% sure nissan's intelligence is aware of this issue.

3SeventyZ · 12-20-2011, 10:43 AM

Had this problem a couple weeks ago and had the steering lock replaced under warranty..
I knew what the problem was as soon as the car wouldn't start and showed the key fob symbol on the dash..

cevans87 · 12-20-2011, 03:09 PM

Well they did a "goodwill" of a whopping $200 towards any service needed on my Nissan. Such ********.

I told the woman on the phone that plenty of us on the forums have had this happen and this is my 3rd Nissan, it is unacceptable that this happened and isn't being covered. My car is only 4000 miles out of warranty and I paid $1200 out of pocket to have it fixed.

She went on to say that it was a non-negotiable offer. I said it was ridiculous that they are aware of problem and refuse to actually do an official recall. I stated that I'd like to talk to the person who she talked to about getting me the "good will" payment, she said "He doesn't talk to customers"

I was pretty livid, I was able to get his title and an address in Tennessee where their Corporate offices are located. I will probably wind up writing them a letter, but I'm doubting anything useful will come of it. I'll post it later when I get home as it's scribbled down on a sheet of paper. I'll also give everyone here her direct extension, maybe you can at least get 2 free oil changes (whoop-de-doo)

12-19-2011, 09:56 AM	#129 (permalink)
kyrick Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 15	Add one more Z falure My 2010 with 7200 miles died in a Wal-Mart lot Friday afternoon. The key emblem lit up and brake pedal stiff and locked in park. Had it hauled to dealer Sat morning. Hope for Mon or Tues fix. At least it is still under warranty.

12-19-2011, 11:34 AM	#130 (permalink)
Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 23	ohhh well, on my first day of Christmas vacation , I have that same problem that you guys have been dealing with !! FML!!!!!! the Z is waiting for the towing and then process his way to the dealership ! I'm about 3000kms from my warranty to expire ! thats a good timing after all and my steering lock assy is #48700-JF00B the key warning light has been on for a bit over a week now and it is stuck in the Lock position with the steering wheel unlock. __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

12-19-2011, 12:34 PM	#132 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51864	At the rate these are failing on this forum alone, I hope Nissan would "goodwill" those with problems out of warranty in the future... __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

12-20-2011, 10:43 AM	#134 (permalink)
3SeventyZ Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD/DE Posts: 626 Drives: 350Z, 370Z, SRT8 Rep Power: 475	Had this problem a couple weeks ago and had the steering lock replaced under warranty.. I knew what the problem was as soon as the car wouldn't start and showed the key fob symbol on the dash.. __________________ 2009 Magnetic Black 370Z Sport 6MT

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12-14-2011, 06:05 PM	#122 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	the battery need to be charged and floated when not in use. especially if your car is a hobby car like mine it needs to be on a battery manager (battery tender) during the week or during hibernation. my dd (G35C) is also on battery manager on the weekends. my short 22mile round trip commute (where half is bumper to bumper) is not enough to charge the battery. my car is 7.5yrs old and still running factory battery.

12-16-2011, 04:54 PM	#125 (permalink)
xSaintx Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Professionalville Posts: 25 Drives: White '09 370z Rep Power: 14	This just happened to me today. On the way to work this morning and I stop to get some gas. No issues. Get back into the car and press start and uh oh, nothing. I tried both keys and a jump, but still nothing. I got a flatbed tow to the dealership and luckily for me, it was RIGHT across the street. Unlucky for me, it turns out it was my steering lock unit malfunctioning and costs $800 bucks for them to order and it won't come in for a week. They have no loner cars available either. I love it.

12-17-2011, 10:47 AM	#126 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	sorry to hear xsaintx. so you locked your car when you stopped in for gas? or left the door unlocked? im starting to think keeping the doors unlocked doesn't help cause the steering locks anyway when the car is turned off...

12-17-2011, 12:01 PM	#127 (permalink)
paigeone Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: phila.pa. Posts: 20 Drives: 09 370z s/t 6sp Rep Power: 15	got my car back on tuesday after being towed to dealer.the turn around was one day.they overnighted the part,installed next day. all work covered under warranty.the dealership i have been taking my z is not were i got the car. were i go for service is "mod" friendly. they were the ones that installed my f.i. exhaust. so hats off to fread beans nissan in limerick pa.

12-17-2011, 12:26 PM	#128 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	^^ sounds great, paigeone! at least your dealer did watever they could to make a bad situation go much much smoother.

12-20-2011, 03:09 PM	#135 (permalink)
cevans87 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Rosslyn, VA Posts: 9 Drives: 09 Red 370Z Rep Power: 14	Well they did a "goodwill" of a whopping $200 towards any service needed on my Nissan. Such ********. I told the woman on the phone that plenty of us on the forums have had this happen and this is my 3rd Nissan, it is unacceptable that this happened and isn't being covered. My car is only 4000 miles out of warranty and I paid $1200 out of pocket to have it fixed. She went on to say that it was a non-negotiable offer. I said it was ridiculous that they are aware of problem and refuse to actually do an official recall. I stated that I'd like to talk to the person who she talked to about getting me the "good will" payment, she said "He doesn't talk to customers" I was pretty livid, I was able to get his title and an address in Tennessee where their Corporate offices are located. I will probably wind up writing them a letter, but I'm doubting anything useful will come of it. I'll post it later when I get home as it's scribbled down on a sheet of paper. I'll also give everyone here her direct extension, maybe you can at least get 2 free oil changes (whoop-de-doo)