2014 Zs are up online

ElVee · 07-26-2013, 10:50 AM

Sucks that I could have waited and saved several grand, but that's how life rolls. You can second-guess almost every decision (except inflation) and hate what you have/are now, because you could have done it better with what you know now. But that's a huge waste of potential happiness.

I'm cool with it. Sure I lost some resale value, but (story untold) I dropped resale value on my Z on my own anyway. Then again, I don't flip cars; I drive them until I move on, so any change in price/value really doesn't affect my happiness in the moment.

(Read wrong, I sound like a preachy douche. I can just say, that's not my intention...)

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Then the issue becomes the dealer's problem, not Nissan's. The dealers were the ones who got the refund, and then got paid extra when selling the car. They should have lowered their price as well, but it's never a surprise when a dealer tries to screw someone for a little extra profit.

From what I was told it was on all current inventory. So basically they creditors the dealer the difference in msrp on all 2013 sometime in June

Mt Tam I am · 07-26-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541

Does this piss anyone else off?? I bought my 2013 in march now granted I beat the dealer up and got them to $32000 for a sport, but still.. I can only imagine how low I could have gotten them if the starting price was $33000 instead of $37000.......

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This reminds me of the class action suit someone tried to start against Apple when they cut the price for the iPhone a few years back. Same argument. "I just bought mine at the old price, and the new price is cheaper". The case didn't hold up. I'm not arguing that it doesn't suck, I'm just pointing out there's very little chance of there being any kind of restitution.

Sorry for your timing and good luck with Nissan.

We make the best decision with the facts present. You worked the best deal but a week later the facts changed. This stinks but welcome to investment.

I bought a stock that was the right decision Thursday and down $40,000 on Monday. A whole car. It is just the way it is. Comfort yourself with the knowledge you did all you could.

peleincubus · 07-26-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Sorry for your timing and good luck with Nissan.

We make the best decision with the facts present. You worked the best deal but a week later the facts changed. This stinks but welcome to investment.

I bought a stock that was the right decision Thursday and down $40,000 on Monday. A whole car. It is just the way it is. Comfort yourself with the knowledge you did all you could.

I was beating my self up a few weeks ago when leap wireless tripled over night. I sold it 2 days prior. Sigh

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 11:19 AM

I wonder if contacting a local news channel would help or if they would even care about doing a spot on it.

enkei2k · 07-26-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541

I wonder if contacting a local news channel would help or if they would even care about doing a spot on it.

You're really blowing this out of proportion.

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 11:22 AM

That's what I do.

enkei2k · 07-26-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541

That's what I do.

Lol, I feel for you, really but a car is an investment.

Think if you paid $500 for Google stock and then the next day, it crashes down to $50, will people go crazy asking for a refund?

Sadly, yes they probably will. American mindset these days. It's always someone else's fault but their own.

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 11:28 AM

Not really the same thing. This was a decision made by cooperate people. Not a chance of the stock market.

Chuck33079 · 07-26-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541

I wonder if contacting a local news channel would help or if they would even care about doing a spot on it.

It wouldn't help at all. Nissan is under no obligation to do anything for you. You bought the car at a lower than msrp price that you felt good about at the time, and they sold you the car. That's the end of the transaction. It really sucks that the price changed, but things change between model years. That's life.

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It wouldn't help at all. Nissan is under no obligation to do anything for you. You bought the car at a lower than msrp price that you felt good about at the time, and they sold you the car. That's the end of the transaction. It really sucks that the price changed, but things change between model years. That's life.

Trust me I get what u are saying. But it's easy for u to say it when it's not ur money. If they have the dealers the difference in msrp then y not give to the customers? I mean dealers get enough of our money y do they get reimbursed and not us?

Chuck33079 · 07-26-2013, 11:35 AM

THe only thing you're affected by is potentially the resale value. You bought your car below the new MSRP. There's no guarantee that you would have been able to get the same deal on a 2014, so you can't really say I would have only paid X for a new one. Nissan refunded the dealers because the dealers pay Nissan. You pay the dealer. They have to buy the car in order to sell it to you.

italy3541 · 07-26-2013, 11:37 AM

The dealer still got their money back on cars that they had pre purchased from Nissan. So what they got is no different than what I'm asking for. Same principal. It doesn't have to be the full amount but they need to do something. A voucher towards my next purchase money off what I owe on mine anything.

b15 · 07-26-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

You're really blowing this out of proportion.

x1000.

Do you know how the free market works? Do you ever invest in the stock market? (I sure hope not) I don't understand why you are so worried about resale value. Do you plan on selling your car tomorrow? That's the risk you take buying new and something you have to learn to stomach.

While I commend you for trying (never hurts right?), I don't think you'll get very far. They don't NEED to do anything. YOU agreed to buy the car for that price. When you buy a TV and a few months later it goes on sale, do you call up the manufacturer and store and demand some compensation because you paid a higher price? A bit ridiculous don't you think? As far as the Mfg to dealer incentives- the dealer doesn't have to pass this along to the customer. It's a business after all and if they can sell for a higher price and profit, why not?

Drex · 07-26-2013, 11:58 AM

italy you have to look at your car purchase as a sunk cost. choosing to sell it now because the price of 2014s is lower than when you purchased your 2013 is not rational. other factors such as depreciation hit when selling, potential to be upside-down on your current loan, cost of purchasing a different car, etc. are far more important.

Sunk costs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In traditional microeconomic theory, only prospective (future) costs are relevant to an investment decision. Traditional economics proposes that economic actors should not let sunk costs influence their decisions. Doing so would not be rationally assessing a decision exclusively on its own merits. Alternatively, a decision-maker might make rational decisions according to their own incentives, outside of efficiency or profitability. This is considered to be an incentive problem and is distinct from a sunk cost problem.

Evidence from behavioral economics suggests this theory fails to predict real-world behavior. Sunk costs do, in fact, influence actors' decisions because humans are prone to loss aversion and framing effects. In light of such cognitive quirks, it is unsurprising that people frequently fail to behave in ways that economists deem "rational."

Sunk costs should not affect the rational decision-maker's best choice.

07-26-2013, 11:35 AM	#102 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	THe only thing you're affected by is potentially the resale value. You bought your car below the new MSRP. There's no guarantee that you would have been able to get the same deal on a 2014, so you can't really say I would have only paid X for a new one. Nissan refunded the dealers because the dealers pay Nissan. You pay the dealer. They have to buy the car in order to sell it to you. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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07-26-2013, 10:50 AM	#91 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	Sucks that I could have waited and saved several grand, but that's how life rolls. You can second-guess almost every decision (except inflation) and hate what you have/are now, because you could have done it better with what you know now. But that's a huge waste of potential happiness. I'm cool with it. Sure I lost some resale value, but (story untold) I dropped resale value on my Z on my own anyway. Then again, I don't flip cars; I drive them until I move on, so any change in price/value really doesn't affect my happiness in the moment. (Read wrong, I sound like a preachy douche. I can just say, that's not my intention...)

07-26-2013, 11:19 AM	#95 (permalink)
italy3541 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pa Posts: 1,491 Drives: 2014BMW Z4 35isdrive Rep Power: 17	I wonder if contacting a local news channel would help or if they would even care about doing a spot on it.

07-26-2013, 11:22 AM	#97 (permalink)
italy3541 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pa Posts: 1,491 Drives: 2014BMW Z4 35isdrive Rep Power: 17	That's what I do.

07-26-2013, 11:28 AM	#99 (permalink)
italy3541 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pa Posts: 1,491 Drives: 2014BMW Z4 35isdrive Rep Power: 17	Not really the same thing. This was a decision made by cooperate people. Not a chance of the stock market.

07-26-2013, 11:37 AM	#103 (permalink)
italy3541 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pa Posts: 1,491 Drives: 2014BMW Z4 35isdrive Rep Power: 17	The dealer still got their money back on cars that they had pre purchased from Nissan. So what they got is no different than what I'm asking for. Same principal. It doesn't have to be the full amount but they need to do something. A voucher towards my next purchase money off what I owe on mine anything.