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Originally Posted by MightyBobo I have no idea why anyone is posting KBB values on their used cars, or how it could possibly help this guy purchase a brand new
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I posted them to show him that the price quoted was in fact a good deal. His brand new Z was quoted to him for the same retail price as my used Z. |
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KBB pricing has nothing to do with invoice in the first place. Furthermore, how can you even compare a KBB used value price on a car that is brand new? What if your car had 50000 more miles on it and the value was that much less? Besides the fact that no dealerships uses KBB when buying used/new cars anyway - they use NADA. If you add up my INVOICE prices, a 2010 Touring 7AT + Sport, without any other options yet, would be around $35700. Tacking on a couple piddly things like splash guards and illuminated kick plates, and he's around $36000. Now, this is all approximation of course, since the 2011's are slightly more. But, not over $1000 more I believe. So I'll stand by my original statement: its not that great of a deal, and he can get more money off of their offer.
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I'd say you got a good deal there, fo sho. Take it duder. Besides, thats 4K cheaper than the value of a used 2 year old 6K mile Z, that has all the bells and whistles. Thats GOTTA be good......right? lol
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I think pricing also might be affected by when you buy it, but I'm not completely sure. You might be able to get a better deal if you buy in the winter like I did. Back when I was searching in January, I saw some new 7AT's listed as low as $27-28k brand new for the base model. There were also several used ones that were exactly the same, but more expensive. The best prices I saw for a new 7AT with the sport package was around $33k, so you definitely have a good deal there. I got a good deal on mine (7AT touring, certified used) IMO because there was a snowstorm that weekend and I drove through the beginning of it to get the car. It was listed at $28k the beginning of the week and I offered $27k, but they wouldn't budge. 2 days later, they just dropped it to $26k and I went there that weekend to get it.
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Everything is about supply and demand, really. Nice weather, they're less hard-pressed to get the car off their lot. Winter storm or winter weather? They'll wheel and deal a bit more just to get rid of some extra stock. So yes, time of year can definitely impact sales price.
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agree i bought mine on jan 1 on this year, and got amazing deal on a new 2010 which the dealer was desperate to sell. got mine fully loaded, at slightly above invoice price. timing plays a huge role, especially at month end or when newer model year are beginning to roll onto the lots.
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Offer $500 above invoice. That's all I would pay for any new car.
I highly doubt 370's are moving well in this economy right now, And watch out on the interest rate. The dealer has many ways to try and get the price they want. Good Luck... Z's are a blast to own.
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