How I have scored invoice pricing with 3.99% APR on my 370Z?

MightyBobo · 03-06-2009, 07:26 AM

I know, lets make up a story about how I spent 80 hours driving all over the bloody place working SO HARD to get invoice pricing on a car. You make it seem like we're taking precious work time and losing money to do this, champ.

Sorry, I do all this in my spare time. Im salary, so no matter what Im getting paid the same. Being military, overtime isn't a word in my vocabulary. So this 80 hours I apparently wasted (somehow losing about $1600) that you ever-so-masterfully fabricated, is meaningless.

You'd be a god damn pro at fudging government spending amounts. You're the stereotypical butt-hurt car salesman who hates the internet because people find out how to get a good deal.

GT-R man · 03-06-2009, 03:22 PM

If you feel like I have wasted your time reading my posts i m sorry. Like I stated at the begining of my post " this will sound like an angry salesman talking" Excuse my spelling and the math is not incorrect. pull out ur pocket calculator and give your +- 3% which is totally accepatable margin of error. You guys that bashed my post got me totally mixed up... If you feel like you can't call a dealership bc you are fed up with sales people maybe you are looking at this the wrong way... the old A**hole sales person is always going to be there no matter what... but the problem is when you call 8 different dealers and 5 of them have A** salesman and the other 3 that agree on price and work with you to help you get into the car you want you guys come bashing on us and calling us retards... you stereo type car salesman just as salesman stereotype internet shoppers as penny pinching butt plugs that cant budge on $100 bucks... yes it is our job to make as much as we can on car sale... $500 dollars over true invoice doesnt even pay the sales person... Do as much research as you want.. my job is to get the car you want at a price we can agree on. would i rather take that slim deal or no sale at all? this is what i chose to do... I am here because most of the people on this forum wouldnt last 1 day as a car salesperson, its not always about the money its about offering something no one else has.

All for all of you from S.Cal complaining about my spelling maybe you should write me a reply in french or spanish or portuguese... if you can do so without errors then I'LL ware that donkey hat...

shumby · 03-07-2009, 03:17 AM

GT-R man Care to tell us where and at what dealership you work at? That would be truly useful information. As from your post I am sure all on here will recomend you. People like you are why sales men get a bad name. You either need to post where you work or STFU. Your rantings have no logic. You assume that I am taking time from work to buy a car. I do it on my FREE time. So there for my time is free. Just like I cut my grass on my FREE time. I don't work 24/7 so in my FREE time I do what I enjoy and it costs me nothing. To most people on this form we like researching about the car, its costs and reasonable prices so that is FREE time to us. Now for me I also do this barganing while at work where I get paid 1500 a day. So if I spend half my day while I am at work doing this, accourding to your logic, every dollar i save on the car from you is like 2 more dollars in my pocket. See how messed up that sounds. you either need to put up or shut up.

GT-R man · 03-07-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shumby

GT-R man Care to tell us where and at what dealership you work at? That would be truly useful information. As from your post I am sure all on here will recomend you. People like you are why sales men get a bad name. You either need to post where you work or STFU.

Wow you must truly beleive that I would actually put out the name of my company so you guys can bash it... please dont waste your time... The reason why I have this account is to keep up with what customers expect and do when they come to our showroom floor... In one way I am actually doing my customers a favor for not having to put them through the crapy experience you guys had. If i m not wrong when you are a platinum level consultant I m sure that what a blog says won't change my income... So as far as I care.. or dont

yall are the only tools I have used

GT-R man · 03-07-2009, 10:32 AM

cut the crap unless you work at a bank or at a dealership and does this for a living you don't know squat about this business... its my job to educate people that come through the door and make my living its not my job to put up with ignorant people because there are 2 things that you cant change... ignorance and poverty.. those are the 2 main things that stop american buyers from buying their dream car.

Even if i give customers what they want they still do not buy.. why because do not know how they need people like me to give them the extra push... thats why my job is crutial to the auto industry... we might be A$$ess sometimes but we are the ones that make it happen not mr. "I m gonna buy from another dealer 3 hrs away bc I dont have the balls to sit and negotiate."

kdo2milger · 03-07-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GT-R man

"I m gonna buy from another dealer 3 hrs away bc I dont have the balls to sit and negotiate."

Now Negotiating the price for a new vehicle is a waste of time

you should practice what you preach brotha

GT-R man · 03-07-2009, 02:00 PM

so when you go to a dealer and you have an idea of what your trade is worth lets say $15000 and he offers you $13500? Do you just look at it and leave? and go to another dealer? bc thats when negotiating comes in... reguardless of how automated car buying gets negotiation is never gonna go away..

kustomZ · 03-08-2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-R man

so when you go to a dealer and you have an idea of what your trade is worth lets say $15000 and he offers you $13500? Do you just look at it and leave? and go to another dealer? bc thats when negotiating comes in... reguardless of how automated car buying gets negotiation is never gonna go away..

Well by your rules, you've just wasted a lot of money writing your posts on this forum. Those are a lot of opportunity costs, and you could have used that time to sell at least 8 cars at 13.99 percent for 72 months, for at least 4k over MSRP. Or are you "investing" these posts for the sake of your career, hoping it will pay off with mobs of people coming to buy a car on your terms?

The OP spent his time wisely, and came out on top because of it. It's what a well-educated person does before making a large purchase....

If you read my entire post, you've just lost more time that could have been devoted to selling cars, so I suggest that you

kdo2milger · 03-08-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kustomZ

The OP spent his time wisely, and came out on top because of it. It's what a well-educated person does before making a large purchase:

point made!

myself on the other hand, I will never buy from a dealer as long as im in the military. I just wait till the tail end of a deployment and go online to omsc and build my dream car, and wait as i am currently....oh and no trade ins required

subterfuge242 · 03-10-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-R man

so when you go to a dealer and you have an idea of what your trade is worth lets say $15000 and he offers you $13500? Do you just look at it and leave? and go to another dealer? bc thats when negotiating comes in... reguardless of how automated car buying gets negotiation is never gonna go away..

and you, your just off your meds.

shumby · 03-08-2009, 04:45 AM

GT-R man come on really you sell used ford tempos out of your moms front yard don't you? It is alright you can tell us. Because if not you are the worst sales man I have ever "met". Again you are the reason sales men get a bad name. My sales man is polite and gives me a level of service that I will take into consideration when i settle on the price I want. But I go into the showroom with a price and I walk out with the price everytime. He tries to get it higher but no I alway reasearch and make a far offer. Your attidude makes it sound like you think you are better then every customer that comes into your showroom and you know everything. Let me tell you you don't. I don't no one knoews everything. You are just coming off as a dink and i hope you are only this way on a form where you cowardly hide who you are. Other formes have meny sales men as members and they actually participate in education learning what we the customer want and also sharing helpfuul insite into the sales process. You my friend have done neither. Hope the economy dose not let the door hit oyu on the way out cuz if you treat your customers like you are saying here your not going to last too much longer.

GeneFlo · 03-08-2009, 07:14 PM

This is probably a stupid question. What is the necessary information that I should put on the word document? Car package, asking price, monthly payment, down payment, fico score. Anything else?

MightyBobo · 03-08-2009, 11:46 PM

And on the flip side of that coin, when I was younger my mom had a salesmen she ALWAYS went to. Trusted him with everything she bought, and always went back to him.

As I grew older and realized how buying a car works, it was then I realized he was royally screwing her over every single time she went to buy a car. We got 6 cars through him before I told her this, too.

trema · 03-09-2009, 04:12 PM

Just got my check in the mail. 2 weeks 4 days till the car arrives! Thanks to the OP for bringing this opportunity to our attention.

MD370Z · 03-10-2009, 02:41 PM

What information about the car, if any, do you need to enter when applying online? I haven't found the car I want yet. Thanks.

03-06-2009, 03:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
GT-R man Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: la Posts: 38 Drives: 08 camry Rep Power: 0	wow so much hate in so little time... If you feel like I have wasted your time reading my posts i m sorry. Like I stated at the begining of my post " this will sound like an angry salesman talking" Excuse my spelling and the math is not incorrect. pull out ur pocket calculator and give your +- 3% which is totally accepatable margin of error. You guys that bashed my post got me totally mixed up... If you feel like you can't call a dealership bc you are fed up with sales people maybe you are looking at this the wrong way... the old Ahole sales person is always going to be there no matter what... but the problem is when you call 8 different dealers and 5 of them have A salesman and the other 3 that agree on price and work with you to help you get into the car you want you guys come bashing on us and calling us retards... you stereo type car salesman just as salesman stereotype internet shoppers as penny pinching butt plugs that cant budge on $100 bucks... yes it is our job to make as much as we can on car sale... $500 dollars over true invoice doesnt even pay the sales person... Do as much research as you want.. my job is to get the car you want at a price we can agree on. would i rather take that slim deal or no sale at all? this is what i chose to do... I am here because most of the people on this forum wouldnt last 1 day as a car salesperson, its not always about the money its about offering something no one else has. All for all of you from S.Cal complaining about my spelling maybe you should write me a reply in french or spanish or portuguese... if you can do so without errors then I'LL ware that donkey hat...

03-07-2009, 03:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	GT-R man Care to tell us where and at what dealership you work at? That would be truly useful information. As from your post I am sure all on here will recomend you. People like you are why sales men get a bad name. You either need to post where you work or STFU. Your rantings have no logic. You assume that I am taking time from work to buy a car. I do it on my FREE time. So there for my time is free. Just like I cut my grass on my FREE time. I don't work 24/7 so in my FREE time I do what I enjoy and it costs me nothing. To most people on this form we like researching about the car, its costs and reasonable prices so that is FREE time to us. Now for me I also do this barganing while at work where I get paid 1500 a day. So if I spend half my day while I am at work doing this, accourding to your logic, every dollar i save on the car from you is like 2 more dollars in my pocket. See how messed up that sounds. you either need to put up or shut up. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

03-08-2009, 04:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	GT-R man come on really you sell used ford tempos out of your moms front yard don't you? It is alright you can tell us. Because if not you are the worst sales man I have ever "met". Again you are the reason sales men get a bad name. My sales man is polite and gives me a level of service that I will take into consideration when i settle on the price I want. But I go into the showroom with a price and I walk out with the price everytime. He tries to get it higher but no I alway reasearch and make a far offer. Your attidude makes it sound like you think you are better then every customer that comes into your showroom and you know everything. Let me tell you you don't. I don't no one knoews everything. You are just coming off as a dink and i hope you are only this way on a form where you cowardly hide who you are. Other formes have meny sales men as members and they actually participate in education learning what we the customer want and also sharing helpfuul insite into the sales process. You my friend have done neither. Hope the economy dose not let the door hit oyu on the way out cuz if you treat your customers like you are saying here your not going to last too much longer. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

03-09-2009, 04:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
trema Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 91 Drives: 09 370z K51 R Rep Power: 598	Just got my check in the mail. 2 weeks 4 days till the car arrives! Thanks to the OP for bringing this opportunity to our attention. __________________ 'Lesca'-2009 370z Touring 6MT w/Sports & Nav- Platinum Graphite/Persimmon. FLO,IKP,SCG,TMA

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03-06-2009, 07:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 54	I know, lets make up a story about how I spent 80 hours driving all over the bloody place working SO HARD to get invoice pricing on a car. You make it seem like we're taking precious work time and losing money to do this, champ. Sorry, I do all this in my spare time. Im salary, so no matter what Im getting paid the same. Being military, overtime isn't a word in my vocabulary. So this 80 hours I apparently wasted (somehow losing about $1600) that you ever-so-masterfully fabricated, is meaningless. You'd be a god damn pro at fudging government spending amounts. You're the stereotypical butt-hurt car salesman who hates the internet because people find out how to get a good deal.

03-07-2009, 10:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
GT-R man Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: la Posts: 38 Drives: 08 camry Rep Power: 0	cut the crap unless you work at a bank or at a dealership and does this for a living you don't know squat about this business... its my job to educate people that come through the door and make my living its not my job to put up with ignorant people because there are 2 things that you cant change... ignorance and poverty.. those are the 2 main things that stop american buyers from buying their dream car. Even if i give customers what they want they still do not buy.. why because do not know how they need people like me to give them the extra push... thats why my job is crutial to the auto industry... we might be A$$ess sometimes but we are the ones that make it happen not mr. "I m gonna buy from another dealer 3 hrs away bc I dont have the balls to sit and negotiate."

03-07-2009, 02:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
GT-R man Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: la Posts: 38 Drives: 08 camry Rep Power: 0	so when you go to a dealer and you have an idea of what your trade is worth lets say $15000 and he offers you $13500? Do you just look at it and leave? and go to another dealer? bc thats when negotiating comes in... reguardless of how automated car buying gets negotiation is never gonna go away..

03-08-2009, 07:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
GeneFlo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 1 Drives: 07 Accord Rep Power: 18	This is probably a stupid question. What is the necessary information that I should put on the word document? Car package, asking price, monthly payment, down payment, fico score. Anything else?

03-08-2009, 11:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 54	And on the flip side of that coin, when I was younger my mom had a salesmen she ALWAYS went to. Trusted him with everything she bought, and always went back to him. As I grew older and realized how buying a car works, it was then I realized he was royally screwing her over every single time she went to buy a car. We got 6 cars through him before I told her this, too.

03-10-2009, 02:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
MD370Z Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 8 Drives: Considering 370Z Rep Power: 18	What information about the car, if any, do you need to enter when applying online? I haven't found the car I want yet. Thanks.