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Originally Posted by Nithmo I doubt that. I know a number of people who drive or used to drive standard that have no idea what it even is. After explaining

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Old 02-21-2017, 12:32 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I doubt that. I know a number of people who drive or used to drive standard that have no idea what it even is. After explaining it to them all I get is a "oh, yeah, I don't know how to do that"
Driving a standard means nothing. I knew several people who drove a standard when I was growing up. By the time I was 12, I realized that not one of them knew how to drive it properly.

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In my 30s. I'm guessing that rev matching was a normal thing, for those that are older?
Rev matching is used by any competent performance driver ... it has nothing to do with age. I know 16 year olds now that can rev match better than most people older than them.
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Driving a standard means nothing. I knew several people who drove a standard when I was growing up. By the time I was 12, I realized that not one of them knew how to drive it properly.



Rev matching is used by any competent performance driver ... it has nothing to do with age. I know 16 year olds now that can rev match better than most people older than them.
I agree with both statements. That's why I don't really see the need for the SRM. It's a cop out for those who don't want to spend the time learning some valuable skills. I can't think of any other car that has SRM. So what happens when a person moves on from their SRM equipped Z?
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I used to turn it off all the time because I thought it was gimmicky for anyone that knows how to drive a manual properly. Several years later, I find that I love it for daily driving. I'm usually driving boots during the week, and they are a pain to heel-toe (it's more of a fat-foot), so SRM is pretty nice. I turn it off for any performance or spirited driving
Heel-toe isn't the same as rev matching. At all. There's no need to heel-toe in daily driving. Rev matching on the other hand? Absolutely.
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I agree with both statements. That's why I don't really see the need for the SRM. It's a cop out for those who don't want to spend the time learning some valuable skills. I can't think of any other car that has SRM. So what happens when a person moves on from their SRM equipped Z?
Porsche's have a version of it, but it blips the throttle and doesn't hold the engine speed. I only see a problem for those that have SRM as their first manual car... This is my 2nd Z with SRM and I love it. I had no problem transitioning to a car without it. Some people like and some don't, it's as simple as that.
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Heel-toe isn't the same as rev matching. At all. There's no need to heel-toe in daily driving. Rev matching on the other hand? Absolutely.
Fair enough

... unless you bog the $hit out of every gear like a few people I've seen
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It's a cop out for those who don't want to spend the time learning some valuable skills.
Blame the millenials ... why waste time learning skills when technology can do it for you?

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I can't think of any other car that has SRM. So what happens when a person moves on from their SRM equipped Z?
As already mentioned in this very thread, there are other cars with SRM, although I don't know of any cheaper than the Z. Manuals are going bye-bye in general, so I expect those manufacturers that keep one around would use this feature to appeal to people with limited stick experience.

I used SRM to 'learn' how the Z wants to shift, both upshifts and downshifts. It was really nice being able to let the car tell me how to shift, and replicate it myself later. I love SRM's convenience when I'm in traffic and constantly shifting, although I hate traffic and this is rare for me. And I love that I can turn it off. I think the market is there and rev-matching will be a popular option for any manual transmissions that manage to stick it out (pun intended ).
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Unless you learned to drive a stick in the past eight years and on a Z, you didn't learn with sync-rev. I've been driving stick since 1990, and I love sync-rev. It's great for daily driving with perfect downshifts on the freeway for passing. If you learn to use it, your drivetrain will thank you.
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Unless you learned to drive a stick in the past eight years and on a Z, you didn't learn with sync-rev. I've been driving stick since 1990, and I love sync-rev. It's great for daily driving with perfect downshifts on the freeway for passing. If you learn to use it, your drivetrain will thank you.
Exactly.. I have been driving stick since '05, def no rev match feature then, but it is something that I enjoy on the car. Neat little feature that you DO have the option of turning off if it's your preference.
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rev match has spoiled me personally.

I come from a line of awesome manual cars, s2000, 350z, civic si, mazda3 always loved to rev match on my own, but ever since I used rev match I never turned it off... I tried shutting it off today and realized all my rev matching skills are just gone.

Rev match is pure convenience, no longer do you have to 'approximate' what is the best rpm to drop down to, the time between downshifts decreases dramatically, i.e. clutch in slam gear, release clutch vs. Clutch in- blip throttle [making sure u didn't over rev or under rev], then release clutch.

It also feels like the rev match is doing its magic on upshifts.
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Sport for sure. I've taken the Rev match off a few times but I prefer it on. It's on every time I start her up so she's telling me something
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we need to be more respectful towards nissan for introducing rev-match to the MT,

this was the first car to adopt it, in a war where autos keep getting faster shifts, this was a good strike back.
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we need to be more respectful towards nissan for introducing rev-match to the MT,

this was the first car to adopt it, in a war where autos keep getting faster shifts, this was a good strike back.
True. Also with a touch of a button, Nissan allows you to turn it off & on. On a Porsche or BMW, it's not that simple. On a Porsche, it's on in the Sport & Sport+ mode, but off in Normal mode. On a BMW, it's on in Normal & Sport mode, but off in Sport+ mode. Quite a few complaints about that on those respective forums.
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I was one of the few that did not like the SRM when I first got my Z. I drove her over a year with it off. I just didn't like the VROOM every time I slowed down and the car though I was going to downshift. Since I added my snail, I have had it on 80% of the time. I think it's a very cool feature but not 100% needed. I can totally see the benefits if you were racing or on the road and wanted to pass when your already going at a higher speed and rpm (I'm not sure why you would be at a higher RPM but what if).

A simple stab of the pedal and you can downshift. It's no big deal after a little practice. Is it worth it? Depending on what you plan to do with your car. However, all the other things your get from the sport package makes it worth it.

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I love SRM, but Nissan can suck my left nut for they way they treat their customers with CSC and ESCL problems
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It made me change my shift habits so I don't get the screwy blips. My habit changes are probably good for the tranny.
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