Thoughts on a base C6

Pharmacist · 10-10-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

LOL. I'm sure he meant 1.14. Hey...his name is Pharmacist, not Mathematician.

I'm going by MSRP, genius. Canadian msrp at that. Over here, the stripped out base vette is 68 k. Base Z (what you call touring in your country) is 40 k, and with sport package is around 44 k, so 44X1.5 = 66. Understood? Or should I draw a diagram

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Never be that cheap? My brother picked up his brand new '08 Corvette with the Z51-package, NPP exhaust, and Comp. Grey wheels for $42,500. That's more than $2,600 in options compared the quoted $39,900 for the stripped version.

Damn...how many strikes is that?

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Actually I have seen brand new 1LTs on the Corvette Forum advertised by forum dealers for as low as $38,900 in the last year.

Interesting. Never anticipated vettes being that cheap. That definitely has to be at invoice or even less. ok, you get me on that one. Now why are they being discounted so much? Are they heavily subsidized by GM? Or is it that no one wants to buy them? If anything, being discounted so much is actually a negative for a sports car. You won't see such deals on a 911 or an m3.

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The moment I scanned his post and saw, "Vettes are crap," I immediately quit reading, quickly realizing he doesn't know a thing about cars.

Pharmacist got prescribed the wrong drugs...

hahaha, very funny, NOT! So everyone who knows about cars must love corvettes, and anyone who doesn't like corvettes doesn't know a thing about cars. What an open minded, intelligent, logical arguement

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Rednecks only drive Corvettes?

Sorry, I missed all those european noblety, ex-formula 1 drivers, indian maharajas, business executives, etc.... driving corvetes.

Face it, the vette is a blue collar car coveted mostly by nascar lovers, dale jr wannabes, rednecks, etc... who like to pretend they are driving a red white and blue all american supercar rivaling porshe, ferrari, etc...

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Are you seriously even REMOTELY saying that the LSX motors are low-tech piles of junk and since the VQ37 has some new-age stuff its better simply because of that?

Of course, the thought of that is too hard to comprehend for many americans. You saying a pushrod, camshaft in the block, 2 valves per head is actually a technological marvel

They've been designing engines like that since the 1960s and probably before. They're so powerful only because they're so big, but efficiency wise, pound for pound, LS engines are subpar compared to other engines from nissan, audi, bmw, porsche, ferrari, etc......

If one of those companies made a 6.2L engine, it would probably make 500-600 hp, not just 438.

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Better yet, it only has decent straight line acceleration, and cant out handle a Z?

WELCOME....TO THE INTERNET. Many things can be done here, including research. I suggest you do that before posting again.

Here RoadandTrack.com -- Cover Story - The Fast & The Frugal: Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (8/2008)

All the handling stats are either same as or slightly less than z sport package. Now its your turn to take your own advice and go search the net before posting

Mike · 10-10-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

Of course, the thought of that is too hard to comprehend for many americans. You saying a pushrod, camshaft in the block, 2 valves per head is actually a technological marvel

They've been designing engines like that since the 1960s and probably before. They're so powerful only because they're so big, but efficiency wise, pound for pound, LS engines are subpar compared to other engines from nissan, audi, bmw, porsche, ferrari, etc......

I get 28.5 mpg cruising the highway at 78 in the C6, only 25 in the 370.

370Zsteve · 10-10-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I get 28.5 mpg cruising the highway at 78 in the C6, only 25 in the 370.

That's about right. The Corvette has amazing highway mileage. Combined, though, less than the 370Z.

Mike · 10-10-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

That's about right. The Corvette has amazing highway mileage. Combined, though, less than the 370Z.

I think I get slightly better around town in the vette also, but the Z still isn't fully broken in either. I know the corvette kicks my wife's Z4's *** in city and highway mileage.

Another plus for a vette is that insurance is half of what the 370 insurance is, at least for me.

Modshack · 10-10-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Another plus for a vette is that insurance is half of what the 370 insurance is, at least for me.

That's definitely a + for the Vette corner. Mine is a bunch higher too Mike.. To many high risk Young-uns driving Z's I guess....

Pharmacist · 10-10-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I get 28.5 mpg cruising the highway at 78 in the C6, only 25 in the 370.

I meant efficiency as in power per litre of displacement, not mileage. Though I'm sure the z would get good mileage if you keep it in 6th gear all the time, which is what the vette does with tall gearing and two tall overdrives.

MightyBobo · 10-10-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

I meant efficiency as in power per litre of displacement, not mileage. Though I'm sure the z would get good mileage if you keep it in 6th gear all the time, which is what the vette does with tall gearing and two tall overdrives.

Power per liter is one of the biggest ricer arguments known to man.

Either bring the big stick or go home. What line of motors can make 430-505 crank horsepower (LS3/LS7) in a stable manner, without having to worry about overheating on the track? Yeah, its not the little Nissan motor thats for sure.

Not only is it efficient (the head design on LSX motors is amazing), but it can take gobs of power and is extremely mod friendly, never mind reliable. Oh yeah, and how about cheap to fix and almost universally known in the mechanical world due to being the classic small-block design?

You argue your HP/liter all the day long - in the end, the LSX is a superior motor not only from a cost-to-repair and cost-to-mod standpoint, but from a racing standpoint.

Pharmacist · 10-10-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Power per liter is one of the biggest ricer arguments known to man.

Either bring the big stick or go home. What line of motors can make 430-505 crank horsepower (LS3/LS7) in a stable manner, without having to worry about overheating on the track? Yeah, its not the little Nissan motor thats for sure.

Not only is it efficient (the head design on LSX motors is amazing), but it can take gobs of power and is extremely mod friendly, never mind reliable. Oh yeah, and how about cheap to fix and almost universally known in the mechanical world due to being the classic small-block design?

You argue your HP/liter all the day long - in the end, the LSX is a superior motor not only from a cost-to-repair and cost-to-mod standpoint, but from a racing standpoint.

Yeah, why do Nissan, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Mitsubishi, Mercedes, McLaren, etc... bother doing research and developing engines? They should all just buy engines from Chevrolet

Provided they don't go bankrupt first

MightyBobo · 10-10-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

Yeah, why do Nissan, Audi, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Mitsubishi, Mercedes, McLaren, etc... bother doing research and developing engines? They should all just buy engines from Chevrolet

Provided they don't go bankrupt first

Yeah, you're right, its not like the EcoTec is one of the best 4-cylinders on the road right now. How about the direct injection 3.6L V6 that's in the Camaro, which makes just slightly less HP than the 3.7L inside of our 370Z, but that one can run on 87 octane? Ohh...forgot, you're the engine tech in these parts

ZPirate · 10-10-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I get 28.5 mpg cruising the highway at 78 in the C6, only 25 in the 370.

Yes the Vette gets amazing highway mileage. I've gotten 30 before on the highway. It's a good grand tourer.

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