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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 Nissan would not dare make the Z anything like the GTR... The GTR is there flagship car and would never put it in danger of being
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They should follow the marketing and trickery that Porsche does to its 911. Porsche has the the newer Cockster and Gayman that could beat their 911 flagship; yet, they manage to sell more cars from each model without killing their flagship. ![]() |
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What makes you think a factory TT Z could touch a GTR in performance? People are not even putting up GTR numbers with a TT Z rated at 600 hp. I guess it is impossible for Nissan to make a TT Z in the 400-450 hp range because it will smoke a GTR...
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The Z was originally meant to be a cheaper alternative to the Vette and more in the same league as the Camaro or Mustang or any 2-seat affordable sports car. Nissan is returning to that mission. And I doubt Nissan will ever make the Z the halo, monster sports car it once was like the Z32 TT. I still pine for the Z32 TT. |
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i was also looking at the m235i but it looks like just another bmw on the road. there are soooo many bmws on the road. when you see a 15 nismo Z heads turn. simple as that.
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Now for the pricing and performance? Yea... Nissan has gone off the deep end with charging so much for so little. You can get a more powerful car for less. That being said, call me an elitist prick, but I'm somewhat prideful because the car is overpriced, it lowers the likelihood of it becoming a common sports car. I get petty egotistical boost from not seeing a single Z -- let alone the 15 Nismo -- after driving a few hours on the road. Somewhat disappointed to hear she's the slowest of her sisters, but seeing how I don't bother with racing or tracks, not something I'm gonna lose sleep over. Not a professional shifter, so TBH that tenth of a second difference is meaningless because if it came down that kind of lightning fast driving reflex, it would take me extra tenths longer. ![]() Last edited by Nargrakhan; 11-28-2014 at 08:15 AM. Reason: Grammar. Spelling. |
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well the 'M'235 is just the 135... although they offer x-drive on those thing and i can only imagine how retardedly fun it is (i have had the luxury of a 335xi). there are rumors about a M2 as a true 'm-series' which will be interesting to see how such a small car works.
as for the reviews... well... i would never compare this car to an entry luxury brand. if you want apples to apples compare it to 'reasonably priced' sports car... such as the camero/mustang/genesis area... again everything is subjective. i personally like lack of technology so i can focus on what the car is supposed to do... DRIVE! |
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The renderings of the M2 look very aggressive. Will be interesting to see it and the new Z in the near future. Tech doesn't bother me. One does not have to employ it at all times. The Z is not that low tech to begin with. Last edited by DLSTR; 11-28-2014 at 10:07 AM. |
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The thing about tech for me is it's great to have but also a distraction from my driving experience. even the triple cluster on the Z (as useful as they are) threw me off a bit as I have never had those guages in any other car I've driven. It's all about preferences... I actually liked the 08 335xi as bland as the internals were because it gave you just enough information but not overwhelming enough to take away from the driving. I have driven a 13' 335xi with all the bells and whistles... again great car but I'm just not a fan of some of the new technology being implemented into cars. Call me old school ![]() This is also one of the reasons why I was leaning toward the Z because of the rawness in the car. I like it raw! |
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I think it's a pretty honest write up too. There's really not that much different with the car... it's a refresh at best. And we all already know it's a lot of money for the performance. But I've heard of folks getting a few thousand off retail on even the '15 Nismo so that makes the $$$ a bit more palatable. I was hoping the lower final drive would help the performance a little more. I may be more disappointed about that than anything else. And I think we all get a lot more excited about the seats than anyone else. I do still love them even if they're a pain to adjust and completely manual. I'd like to have a set.
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