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Originally Posted by Ardent_Z So does this mean a 450 HP TT Z35? hmmm... i hope Gob here you my friend

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Old 02-13-2015, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So does this mean a 450 HP TT Z35? hmmm...
i hope Gob here you my friend
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Getting excited for the z35. If there's a 450 hp option, I'm all over it as long as it's not prohibitively expensive. I'd pay $45-50k for a M/vette fighter fighter Z.
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Same here!
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Oh hell yea!! $50k and I'm in!!
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It would need to be a bit better in the NVH dept too.
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It would need to be a bit better in the NVH dept too.
What's NVH?
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I didn't think it was bad, sure it's a little rough but it never bothered me when I had my 370.
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I didn't think it was bad, sure it's a little rough but it never bothered me when I had my 370.
It's fine for the 370, but if we're talking about a 45 - 50k M fighter Z, then it should be a bit better since we're in a new price bracket. It needs a bit more polish to go with the extra grunt to sell at that price.
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It's fine for the 370, but if we're talking about a 45 - 50k M fighter Z, then it should be a bit better since we're in a new price bracket. It needs a bit more polish to go with the extra grunt to sell at that price.
M fighter, eh? Why do I get the impression that if something were to fight the BMW M, it'd have to be an Infiniti?

I just don't see Nissan adding all those doodads to the Z that allow you to dynamically adjust suspension stiffness, steering, throttle and braking response. That stuff all belongs in a tech bloated vehicle, which is what the Infiniti brand is for.
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M fighter, eh? Why do I get the impression that if something were to fight the BMW M, it'd have to be an Infiniti?

I just don't see Nissan adding all those doodads to the Z that allow you to dynamically adjust suspension stiffness, steering, throttle and braking response. That stuff all belongs in a tech bloated vehicle, which is what the Infiniti brand is for.
For the NVH like the gent suggested at this price point I agree now that you mention it. And I don't think it necessarily needs to be as good as the M E92 M3/4. It just needs to hold its own, like the z33 did with the E46 M3 back in 03.

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It just needs to match up in performance. It doesn't need to be all teched out and bloated or as luxurious.
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I'm thinking more of a competitor to the Cayman. The Z is due for an update big time staying with the same platform for the last 6 years. It has to up the ante to stay alive if it hasn't died already. Nissan wake up and quit dumping all your resources in the GTR that most of us can't afford!!!!!
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Being a competitor tot he Cayman will not sell cars. The Cayman is very niche and a lot of Cayman buyers wouldn't get the Z anyway even if it was as good since the Porsche badge is part of what they want as well. If they want to actually sell cars it needs to have more power, enough to hang with a m4 or mustang GT. It doesn't need to beta them, just be in their ballpark for hp and acceleration. That's what most buyers are looking at and why, even though the Mustang GT and Z are different cars, they are still cross shopped. Add in great looks and handling and it they'll have a winner.
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Being a competitor tot he Cayman will not sell cars. The Cayman is very niche and a lot of Cayman buyers wouldn't get the Z anyway even if it was as good since the Porsche badge is part of what they want as well. If they want to actually sell cars it needs to have more power, enough to hang with a m4 or mustang GT. It doesn't need to beta them, just be in their ballpark for hp and acceleration. That's what most buyers are looking at and why, even though the Mustang GT and Z are different cars, they are still cross shopped. Add in great looks and handling and it they'll have a winner.
Yea I totally agree. As is the Z will walk a base Cayman. Not the S though, but it's not too far behind. It doesn't need not frankly should it have the refinement of the M4, but it's got to make the M4 WORK to justify the realistic $80K you'd drop on one as opposed to the HOPEFULLY sub $50K for the Z35. I'm thinking realistically 3300 pounds well equipped, DCT 430bhp and 360Tq ought to do it. Make it Z sexy and right around $47K...if be in one again tomorrow. Don't scoff at the DCT, the '16 Veloster just got it. It can be done at cost.
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