z or vette

MJB · 09-26-2014, 09:04 AM

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

Nargrakhan · 09-26-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

carlitos_370z · 09-26-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

you can say it better dude!!! Amen

MJB · 09-26-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

It's that the point of an opinion though? It's what someone "feels" is better... not something rooted in pure fact, though some facts might be a factor in my opinion. If you wanna compare a Z with a C7 using pure logic and statistics, then compare engineering charts and performance numbers. However just because a car performs better or worst than another, doesn't mean someone will like or hate it.

In my opinion, Car X is better than Car Y. In raw fact, Car Y is better than Car X. Doesn't change my opinion that Car X is better. I don't hate Car X because it's slower than Car Y. I like Car X because blah, blah, blah.

That's what an opinion is.

If you want a faster car with a more powerful engine, get the C7. Pure and simple. Numbers don't lie. If you want to get the car that I like, get the Z. Pure and simple. My opinion is the Z is a better car than the C7. Even if facts say the C7 is better on paper and the road, I still like the Z more. That's why it's an opinion.

This is reminding me of that time when a friend and I were arguing what was hotter: sexy American girls or sexy Japanese girls. Of course someone with an "asian persuasion" perogative would have their opinion trump the other... but you'd still get on your knees and thank God for being able to spend a night with either.

C7... Z... both are damn sexy fast cars. You can't lose for owning either. Just pick whatever you can afford and/or think is better (be it looks, speed, sound, options, etc).

I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

Nargrakhan · 09-26-2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z...

Reading his posts, it seems that he's already set on getting the C7 and wants to be convinced that keeping the Z is better.

He claims to loves the Z and C7 equally in terms of appearance and appeal. So if performance is the determinator... get the C7. If spending is the determinator... stay with the Z. If it's all about bragging rights... well... it depends on the audience.

I'm in agreement with you... these "Car X versus Car Y" topics are ultimately silly "this is better than that" bait.

Me? Who cares what OTHER people think of your ride? It's YOUR ride. More importantly: it's YOUR money. Do what YOU want.

If peer pressure determines what car you buy: see whatever the latest car magazines are gushing over as the hottest thing. Just don't be disappointed if 6 to 12 months later, the magazines are praising something entirely different. Cars are like computers... the next best thing is always around the corner, and what you buy today will be old news tomorrow.

MJB · 09-26-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan

Reading his posts, it seems that he's already set on getting the C7 and wants to be convinced that keeping the Z is better.

He claims to loves the Z and C7 equally in terms of appearance and appeal. So if performance is the determinator... get the C7. If spending is the determinator... stay with the Z. If it's all about bragging rights... well... it depends on the audience.

I'm in agreement with you... these "Car X versus Car Y" topics are ultimately silly "this is better than that" bait.

Me? Who cares what OTHER people think of your ride? It's YOUR ride. More importantly: it's YOUR money. Do what YOU want.

If peer pressure determines what car you buy: see whatever the latest car magazines are gushing over as the hottest thing. Just don't be disappointed if 6 to 12 months later, the magazines are praising something entirely different. Cars are like computers... the next best thing is always around the corner, and what you buy today will be old news tomorrow.

He is set on a C7, but like FPenvy mentioned, he didn't even know what a C7 was, lol. I was gonna say maybe to hold out till the Z35 comes out... if it ever does.

jpkirk · 09-26-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

I get what you are saying... and for the most part agree. I never once stated that a C7 is "better" than a 370z, just trying to make a point that it is way faster, handles and brakes better than a Z. I have no idea the motive behind OP's reasoning for possibly trading in his Z... But if its strictly from a performance standpoint... then come on people, lets be realistic. The Vette is far superior than a Z performance wise... I tried making that statement and it seemed like a lot of defensive people had to jump in with bias opinions. "Vettes aren't reliable, they are everywhere, old men drive them, add HFCs plus a tune and your Z will be just as fast"... blah blah. I just think some people need to tone down the pride a little... its ok to admit the Z isn't the greatest sports car ever made. Its ALWAYS the same when somebody starts a thread asking about other cars, or is thinking about trading in their car for something else... People get so butt hurt and have to completely bash whatever car is mentioned. Cough cough Mustang*.

Of course being faster doesn't make a vehicle better than another... I would have never bought my 370 if that was the case, or my 350.

I only got on the bandwagon because the OP never specified which Corvette he was interested in. C7 does bring much more to the track. And like you say in your last comment, faster does not make better when you take into consideration intangibles.

Magic Bus · 09-26-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better.

I can think of a million reasons why the Z is better and it starts with the letter $

dotcomee · 09-26-2014, 03:07 PM

Do the base performance stats really matter?

Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys.

Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?

09-26-2014, 09:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 43 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 497	Asking opinions about another car on this forum is worthless. The OP could have said he was thinking about buying a freakin Bugatti Veyron and people would still come up with reasons why they think the Z is better. MX52Z likes this. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

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dotcomee Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Austin, TX. Posts: 77 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 13	Do the base performance stats really matter? Either your a stock guy and all these cars have more than enough power for us non-track guys. Or you can mod a Z, Mustang, Vette, Challenger, etc to do pretty much anything you want if you need more?