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Oh, further, I do miss the intimacy of the Z, the small 2 seat feeling of that closed cockpit. I've owned A LOT Z's the 370 was my 2nd favorite behind the 300. The 240 was fun but slow in reality. 350 was great, had the Touring 6 speed, nav, but it handled like my now 3.8 without the power. Plus, the interior, really? In 2007 when I got it it was just then tolerable for $34k. I drove a few 370's with auto, nav, top of line, it was CLOSE to the 3.8 I bought but still didn't give me everything I really wanted and it was like 8 grand more. THe ONLY THING I miss on my 3.8 vs my Z is the HID lights. Yes, for $1000 more I could have gotten the "Ultimate" 3.8 that has the HIDS, but the ONLY trim you can get that in black leather. Blah!! The interior in the 3.8 GT POPS with the tan.
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The article posted earlier said a starting price of 50-60k in the last sentence.
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I know. That was just my speculation. $50k starting with the right mix of power/handling/styling is fine with me!
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Upon further thought, I might be interested in a hybrid sports car if they put in a manual. Honda is the only manufacturer to offer a manual hybrid, actually three: CR-Z, Insight, and Civic Hybrid. If it's CVT across the board, 'm out.
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Yea CVT's have there place and it's not in my sports car..
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It is unfortunate that we including myself seem to compare numbers, meaning the higher the HP and TQ numbers the better the car must be. I must confess I have been sucked into this also.
In all honesty why do you think that there are so many stangs and camaros on the road these days? Think about it for a moment. It is simple, price v performance. When Ford launched the Mustang, wasnt there moto or whatever something to do with power and affordability for the ordinary folks? Personally for me if money was no objective Id be in a GTR or something a little subtle like an M4. But for bang for buck the GT is a no brainer. But so damn common!:roflpuke2: |
Yea I live in Texas and tripped over 3 mustangs walking out my front door this morning. That being said I'd be lying if I said I haven't considered it do to it's pretty awesome 5.0 engine.
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I don't really care if a car is "common" or not. The Mustang is kind of a big fat boat, although it is fast. I felt the current-gen had way to much lift and dive and anyone who has ever driven a car with a live axle will immediately recognize that the car had a live axle. That whole remote-mounted shifter thing is also BS. So yeah, very fast car, great engine, I felt the rest of the package was lacking.
One of the reasons I like the current-gen Z is that it starts at $30K. That's reasonable, for a toy car that sits in the garage half the time. $50K+, not so much. |
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The more the market is flooded with a certain vehicle I would have to think it affects there value. That's my only issue with common cars.
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Yeah, that's a good point. If it's easy to find 10 cars with the same options, your resale is a lot more negotiable (in a bad way).
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Yea were pretty lucky Ford pumps out like 30,000 mustangs a month and I think nissan sells around like 9000 Z's a year in the states.
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Like the Z32, Nissan should do 3 versions: NA V6 with 300ish hp; 6-cyl turbo with 400+ hp a la BMW M4/M3; and last but definitely not least....HYBRID with close to 400 if not more hp.
I know some of you dislike hybrids. But the world is changing and so are gas prices ;) Ride in a Tesla P85 and you will see how instantaneous electric torque is. It's GT-R or Vette C7 torque from a standstill. |
I would never pay 60k for a Z. Too much money. Used GTR is at about 65k.
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Exactly if it's actually worth 60K meaning it's competitive with other cars in its price range like a new C7 people will buy it.
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^remember guys, when the Z32 TT debuted it was a direct competitor to C4 Vette. The people saw it that way too. They had about the same level of hp, 0-60; 1/4 times, MSRP, etc. But Nissan had to put the Z on hiatus because the SUV craze came into play during the mid 90s and on because the trend was changing. The Z33 imo was a let down. Watered down, styling was kinda cheap and plasticky, and the C5, C6 Vettes were a step above it in price, performance, etc.
If the next Z can make at least 400hp, do 12-sec range 1/4s, etc....people will pay $60K for it. It will be a direct competitor to C7 Vette...then, the Z06/ZR1 will be the direct competitor to the GT-R....But I gotta feeling Nissan is gonna cheapen down the Z to make it a mass market sports car like the BRC Scion...whatever that Beans Rice and Cheesy thing is supposed to be. |
No way it would be cheaper than the current Z. But if the 60k stays, I'd rather pick up a used GTR or a used mdded E92 M3 instead.
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Off topic again looks like the Z06/ZR1 may be mid engine along with the next gen corvette the C8. Ok chevy you got my attention now go through with it..
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Those are all very old concepts as Chevy has dangled this in front of us for decades but the author makes some very good points as to why all signs point to them fallowing through this time. I'll always prefer Japanese design over American but there is something about a mid engined V8 that I may actually be able to afford that gives me goosebumps. It's gonna be an amazing next couple of years to be a car enthusiast.
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2016 would be pretty perfect so that the 50th anniversary edition won't be plagued by first model year issues like the 40th!
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Sry ur so sensitive Kenchan. Also I chose the auto for specific reasons mainly because my knees are a mess from my time in the army.
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The z32 was also long in tooth when it was discontinued, coupled with Nissans financial troubles, increasing emissions standards and the rising yen. When a company is near bankruptcy, they have to cut fast. The Z had always been a niche car and will never sell in the masses like the vette which unfortunately adversely affects the pricing. I don't get it, people will rave about a vette, who until recently was a cheaply built car for $60k that only offered raw power. Yet the idea of a Nissan Z that could rival it in the $50k range is so absurd? Seems like majority here want vette power, Porsche refinement at a BRZ price. |
Going upmarket will put it out of the hands of middle class owners, 60-70k is more than some people make in a year. Even 35k is a stretch but doable with creative financing.
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