Also here's the supra info

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...details-emerge

That Supra, if it comes to fruition is going to be a beast.

So many people were dissapointed that the new supra is going to be a hybrid turbo 4. Many people expected a turbo inline 6

And if 350 hp is for the engine plus hybrid, thats pretty disappointing, considering the cla amg is close to that with just an engine

I agree. I also think that the s2000 being mid engined rwd is pretty amazing.

Yeah I just love the way mid engined cars look. You can push the wheels to the edges of car, and get great weight distribution

And the benefit of a mercedes engine in the Z is that you can now have german tuners go crazy on your car

Yea very true although I still wish it was a VQ.

The original S2000 is front-mid engine and RWD.

If the only options are hybrid and CVT from all of these cars, I'm keeping my Z and making it twin turbo.

I meant the general 'you'. I looked it up hoping that the news had changed from a sub-200hp econobox. It hasn't.

I no what the original was the new one will be mid engined rwd if u read the articles were talking about.

Firebase is dead on. The Z is all about affordability and the 300zx was priced out of the No. Am. market when the Yen was stronger than the dollar. Nissan learned its lesson and it's one of the reasons the Z's improvements between subsequent production models have been modest -- cost. If the new stock Z is over $40K, it will fail.

It's also the same story as the Supra. Toyota tried to reinvent it as a higher end sports car and it failed miserably. People just weren't going to pay top dollar for a Toyota, despite its performance. If the new Supra is over $60K as rumored, it will go no where.

More info on the next 370Z
 

I also agree that a Z that starts at 60,000 is crazy that's never what I meant. There seems to be a lot of drivetrain choices coming our way. I guess I should have just said that I believe there is gonna be a bigger price and performance gap between the standard Z and the nismo this time around. But a 50-60k nismo wouldn't be completely crazy

Theres a chance youre right, I hope youre not, but when a $60K Nismo is out thats when youll find me in the next M car.

:iagree:

Heh... off topic but... njobe89, I know what your signature is about, but there are programming langauges that would dicate the wrong answer must be correct, or else it would cause serious problems. :icon17:

I got rid of my 370 not only because I needed a truck but because I wanted to plan for the next gen Z. If the next gen Z comes out at 60k, Nissan will lose 70% or more of the already tiny consumer pool interested in a Z car.

Why on earth someone would pay 60k for a low to mid 400 hp Z car when you can get a current gen vette for less, a CTS V used with low miles for 40-45k, used porches in the 50-60k range, 09-10 GTR's and the list goes on and on.
The current gen Z is a very affordable car to maintain and repair for a sports car. You can forget about all of that with a MB power plant.

Don't forget the next gen gtr rumors are pretty crazy and if prove to be true give the Z even more room to grow up a little bit..

Exactly......hence:

They pretty much strip the Q50 and stuff it in a two seater. Hybrid and V6. Theres the Z35. Probably look a bit similar too, back and haunches, just smaller.

I guess that depends on if the infinity hybrid system mates up easily to Mercedes engine that's the only reason I'm still skeptical on that idea.

Mercedes 6 cylinder is going in as the powerplant with direct injection, a new 7 speed rev match manual, 8 or 9 speed auto and the hybrid system on the Q series. Wheelbase of 103 inches and 3400 pounds base, 430 combined HP, 350TQ, 1/4 mile 12.5 and runs the Top Gear track in 1:24.6. Any questions?

More info on the next 370Z
 

The Mercedes engine I believe is already a done deal man no more VQ.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/1...Targa-7721917/

yea, right, thats what i said:

"Mercedes 6 cylinder is going in as the powerplant with direct injection, a new 7 speed rev match manual, 8 or 9 speed auto and the hybrid system on the Q series. Wheelbase of 103 inches and 3400 pounds base, 430 combined HP, 350TQ, 1/4 mile 12.5 and runs the Top Gear track in 1:24.6. Any questions?
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;-)

Yea I'm blind sry

Here is what I want. Have the next gen base Z powered with whatever V6 or 4 cyl (smaller/lighter) Nissan keeps talking about if they want to go after the BRZ/FRS market instead of bringing back the Silvia platform. Also isn't the iDX supposed to compete in that market? Anyways for the Nismo (performance package) drop in the VR38DETT. Before you go wait a minute they will never use the GTR engine in the Z. With the next GTR use a new engine to keep it the unique halo car for Nissan. This will make the Nismo and IPL badge mean something more than a body kit. This has been rumored to be the next IPL's engine but would cost upwards of $80k-$90k. At which point the current market walks. Might as well get a GTR. So what are we left with at the current Z market price? How do we get that power but keep the cost down? Or can the VR38DETT be delivered in the Z at a better price point than what was rumored? Can Nissan deliver?

All signs are pointing to using a Mercedes engine in their joint venture.

400 hp, 325 lb tq, 3075 lbs from a Japanese factory with equivelant ride and handling to a 911 or Cayman for $60,000. I'd be the exception and buy it. (911s numbers)

However I believe Firebase is correct, this ain't gonna happen. Carlos Ghosn is a shrewd business man that knows, it's the bottom line which keeps his job/bonuses and Nissan in business. He's all about controlling expenses, maximizing sales and profitability. Expanding and re-tooling your manufacturing plant to get into the very niche $60k+ sports car market is loaded with risk and very little potential return. They already have a halo car (GTR) that spanks the competition in the price/performance category, yet are now giving a $10k additional discount to clear out the 2014's.

I don't know what's going to happen with the Z, but from a business perspective. I do believe if a new Z comes along, it will be sharing it's engine or engines/chassis with other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles manufactured at the same plant.

I assumed in my "Z35 motor theory thread", we'd be getting the v6 that's in the Mercedes c-class. It has twin-turbo and twin intakes. Has a lot of Nissans inherent technology. In the c class it's good for about 330hp. Im guessing it's a detuned v6 so it doesn't cut into AMG bi-turbo v8's.
330hp detuned could push 380-450hp tuned by Nissan. If the next Z is 3100-3200lbs with this kind of power? It will be insane.
What I also like about the Benz engine is that it produces significantly more torque than the VQ.

Out with the old. in with the new, im excited. My gut feeling is Nissan will reclaim it's thrown.

If Nissan is not investing in the engine, I doubt they will spend money on a new 7-speed manual. As far as I know, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual. Anyone know whether the current manual transmission is strong enough to be used in a turbo setup? Is there a chance our Z will become the last generation with manual transmission option?

Am I the only one thinking Nissan doesnt care about teh Z anymore? Like someone mentioned earlier that fella Carlos Ghosm or whatever hes called is all about making money. Budget cars are Nissans bread and butter revenue maker right? In this day and age pushing the same model/ platform for 5 years when the competition is now overtaking you in technology and power something is a miss? I remember back in the 80s and 90s the germans would not change their car shape for almost sometimes 7+ years. In this day and age the 370z platform has been around forever. I guess some would see that as it being a success. Some others would see it as no forward thinking vision nor keeping up with the competition.

I dunno, id like to think not. I know, in reality, its all about the cheddar. However, Nissan, is a big enough company to produce the Z. Its iconic, it NEEDS a Z in the lineup, maybe the Z itself doesnt generate much revenue but buyers for other models gravitate to Nissan BECAUSE it simply exists. It may take a hiatus, like the 300 to 350, but as long as Nissan is around I think the Z will be around.

The 370z has been around alil to long I agree. As long as little bits of info keep leaking out tho I wouldn't worry about it going any where. Nissan needs a whole line up refresh, and they have acknowledged that. We already know of a new maxima, Titan, gtr, and supposedly new 370z.

we like problemz :D

new article on motortrend today, more of the same stuff as everyone else said, except this one says it might come out early 2018

We Hear: Next Nissan Z Will be a Hybrid with Targa Top - Motor Trend

I can see 2018 happening they will call it a 2019 model and it will be the 50th anniversary edition just like when the 370z made its first appearance.

2018 sounds soooooooooo far away or is it just me lol.

Sure does, which benefits me and my time line. still is a long time. if its true I wonder if theyll just continue with the Z34 platform till then or kill it off in 15 or 16?

If they do put 10 years between the 370z and it's successor they better go big especially with it also being the 50th year anniversary of the Z.

More info on the next 370Z
 

A member on here says he talked to an engineer at zday 2014 and we can expect a 2017 nismo rs with stock forced induction to send the 370z out with bang. Any bets that's gonna be a close to 50,000 dollar nismo lol... Just sayen

I think they'll continue it for a few more years, if that's the release year. Seeing how the Z34 assembly line is already built and paid for, it wouldn't hurt them to squeeze a few more sales and empty whatever stockpiles they've got.

Yea... well... I hope it's not as pathetic as the RS upgrade the Juke got. What was it: a 10 hp boost?

if they kill it wouldn't the value of our cars increase a little then? possibly? if it does come out in 2018 the way inflation is going 60k will be like 40k now lol 0.o