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Bking 08-11-2014 03:41 PM

More info on the next 370Z
 
370Z info starts at 3:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAzfY5UyMgw

Here are some articles about the same thing:
2017 Nissan Z35 could feature turbo hybrid powertrain | Digital Trends

Redesigned 2016 Nissan Z35 Inherits Nissan 370Z : The Best New Cars

KaienZ34 08-11-2014 03:46 PM

400hp turbo six sounds good to me.

Tick64 08-11-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2927323)
400hp turbo six sounds good to me.

...in addition to the hp/torque of an electric motor, quoted in the article. Kick-***! :excited:

Akurei 08-11-2014 04:17 PM

I think its gonna be pretty cool, however I don't like the idea on manufacturers deciding to buy or exchange parts (between other manufacturers). It totally ruins the individuality of the car and the person driving it. Soon, we will all be driving the same car with no different makes or models. And the car drives for you. Not a big deal, but if I owned and made decisions as a manufacturer, I would just make a dope engine

Arrvaxx 08-11-2014 04:37 PM

A 400 hp V6 that is smaller and lighter? I would buy it in a second...if it didnt look like any of the ugly Nissan is putting out these days. It would be great DD. I would keep my 40th for the days my Viagra runs out.

Arrvaxx 08-11-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Akurei (Post 2927349)
I think its gonna be pretty cool, however I don't like the idea on manufacturers deciding to buy or exchange parts (between other manufacturers). It totally ruins the individuality of the car and the person driving it. Soon, we will all be driving the same car with no different makes or models. And the car drives for you. Not a big deal, but if I owned and made decisions as a manufacturer, I would just make a dope engine

Especially when Nissan has a history of solid engines. I wonder if it has something to do with patents. Seems like you can patent anything. Maybe Benz has some that prevent electric awesomness without paying them.

iceman21_23 08-11-2014 05:17 PM

Holy crap this guy on the video is annoying as F#%K I'll believe it when I see it.

wanker 08-11-2014 05:45 PM

Jesus Christ. I couldn't even last 10 seconds with that clown.

Could somebody with more tolerance, please summarize the video for me.

Eclipz 08-11-2014 06:03 PM

First article says starting price is 60,000 but the second article says z35 will be cheaper than current 370z...

Bking 08-11-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipz (Post 2927426)
First article says starting price is 60,000 but the second article says z35 will be cheaper than current 370z...

I think they are referring to the two different models; the 2.0T and the 3.0T.

Masterbeatty 08-11-2014 10:12 PM

$60k price tag I would rather buy a used GTR. Inflation sucks when you don't get a raise to match it.

Arrvaxx 08-11-2014 10:19 PM

Wait...did he just say it was going to be called the Z35? NO! BAD NISSAN!

Limeybastard 08-11-2014 10:49 PM

I call bull**** on that video. Also, its not as if we wont be seeing spyshots of it on the N'Ring with cammo least a year before its launched. Meaning I doubt it will be 2016, More 2017.

Felix 808 08-12-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2927691)
I call bull**** on that video. Also, its not as if we wont be seeing spyshots of it on the N'Ring with cammo least a year before its launched. Meaning I doubt it will be 2016, More 2017.

:iagree: Nothing but speculation at this point

kenchan 08-12-2014 09:21 AM

the most i would pay for a Z is $35K + mods.

NeoRacer 08-12-2014 10:18 AM

At 400hp the price is gonna skyrocket, pricing many of us out of it. I reckon high 40s to 50s. Sucks :\

Read T 08-12-2014 11:10 AM

The video is just like what is online (and this forum). Wild speculation.

Car companies have been sharing technology and engines for years and years. That's why you can order bolt on TRD parts for your Chevy Cavalier.

Mt Tam I am 08-12-2014 11:18 AM

At this point, I doubt all info until it is in the show rooms.

Dirk McGurck 08-12-2014 11:25 AM

I don't want an electric motor. And if that affects having a manual transmission, **** it all.

Lighter car, yes. Turbo V6 with 400hp, yes.

Nargrakhan 08-12-2014 11:32 AM

Hmm... so they're going to recycle the body design? Not sure how I feel about having triplets. Face it: the average person thinks the 350Z and 370Z are the same thing. Now the Z35 would join the look-alike contest.

As much as I love the 350 & 370 lines, I'd more prefer Nissan to give us something new and just as beautiful.

Read T 08-12-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 2928223)
I don't want an electric motor. And if that affects having a manual transmission, **** it all.

Lighter car, yes. Turbo V6 with 400hp, yes.

electric motor to spin the turbo and eliminate lag? electric motor to mega-increase low end torque? electric motor to increase fuel econ?

Dirk McGurck 08-12-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 2928229)
electric motor to spin the turbo and eliminate lag? electric motor to mega-increase low end torque? electric motor to increase fuel econ?

Electric motor to break? Electric motor to cost an arm and a leg to replace? Electric motor to have to be rebuilt every couple years? Electric motor to add a ****-ton more complexity to a motor and force me to buy a whole new assortment of tools and learning materials so I don't get raped by the dealership for repairs?

Dirk McGurck 08-12-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2928226)
Hmm... so they're going to recycle the body design? Not sure how I feel about having triplets. Face it: the average person thinks the 350Z and 370Z are the same thing. Now the Z35 would join the look-alike contest.

As much as I love the 350 & 370 lines, I'd more prefer Nissan to give us something new and just as beautiful.

They used a pic of the new Nismo, but I think it's a full redesign. They are talking about a new platform, which would mean new design. Plus I've heard 'smaller and lighter'.

And for design, the Zs have had the same body design for years.

Drakonis GTR 08-12-2014 05:25 PM

Well at the very least, this would give credence to the plan of waiting a couple of years before buying the new gen. Hopefully that will give them the time to get the issues that will inevitably spring up from the electric motors and the drive-train overall ironed out.

The idea of 400hp+ sings to me, but not for $50k+, which pretty much puts it outside my pay grade. It's sounding like I'll be sticking with the 370 for a bit longer. Which is fine, it will give me more time to play with it. :)

Virtual 08-12-2014 06:55 PM

Whatever nissan does I hope it blows the '15 mustang out the water. New mustang GT has 435hp 400lb torque, but its a mustang so its also heavy. They're pretty much forced to up the hp since there are rumors of the s2k getting around 350hp (s2k might be a threat, or maybe a revived rx7 in a couple years), and the Z could lose a lot of weight. Which is always a good formula, less weight + more power = :tup:

Firebase99 08-13-2014 06:21 AM

Well, all speculation for HP and TQ aside, the current 5.0 has about 8.5 pounds peer HP to push around. The next Z MUST better that IMO one way or another for around $30K. Everything else is moot until that is achieved.

watson853 08-13-2014 06:58 AM

It's all speculation but with there being talk of two engines I would expect a turbo 4 to be in the 30k range. The top of the range Z I can see beating the mustang eventually with a turbo six. But as cool as that would be the mustang probably wouldn't be far behind, and even if they do manage to beat the mustangs performance I bet you they make us pay somewhere around 50k to get it. The lower turbo 4 model will be just alil better than what we got now.

Firebase99 08-13-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2929254)
It's all speculation but with there being talk of two engines I would expect a turbo 4 to be in the 30k range. The top of the range Z I can see beating the mustang eventually with a turbo six. But as cool as that would be the mustang probably wouldn't be far behind, and even if they do manage to beat the mustangs performance I bet you they make us pay somewhere around 50k to get it. The lower turbo 4 model will be just alil better than what we got now.

I dont see that at all. They kept the 350, 370 and need to keep this in line price wise. Nissan learned a hard lesson with the 300. As cool as it was, no one is going to be paying 90% Porsche money for a Nissan. It MUST be around $30K base with current 5.0 performance.

watson853 08-13-2014 07:16 AM

More info on the next 370Z
 
So you don't think nissan will compete with the new s2000 and supra. Those cars are both rumored to be around 60,000 and the power figures on both those cars are what your looking for. We already no there is two engines in development so there's going to be a premium for more power. You will get a new Z for 30,000 just most likely not the one u want. Look how much of a premium you pay for a nismo with an extra 15 hp over a base lol.

Firebase99 08-13-2014 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2929273)
So you don't think nissan will compete with the new s2000 and supra. Those cars are both rumored to be around 60,000 and the power figures on both those cars are what your looking for. We already no there is two engines in development so there's going to be a premium for more power. You will get a new Z for 30,000 just most likely not the one u want. Look how much of a premium you pay for a nismo with an extra 15 hp over a base lol.

If Nissan is going to play in the $60K arena, which I dont think there is snowballs chance in hell of, it just set its target for a 911 S. Insanity. They did that with the 300 back in the 90's. Had Porsche on the ropes with their 911, but ultimitely, it failed, so few people were willing to pay that money for a Nissan on that level. Same goes for the Z35. It has to play with the BIG BOY, the 5.0 or make a REAL serious run at Cayman S territory with 95% of its performance for less than half its price.

watson853 08-13-2014 07:36 AM

More info on the next 370Z
 
I hope your right but I really don't think you are. I don't think nissan is looking at the mustang as much as there looking at the s2000, supra, and a potential new RX-7. All the info we've gotten so far sounds an awful lot like the info we've gotten from Toyota and Honda. So for 30,000 I would expect the turbo 4 and I just don't see that beating the 5.0. The car market has changed a lot since the 300zx. I for one would pay 60k in a second if the car is worth it.

watson853 08-13-2014 07:41 AM

Where can u get a new 911s for 60k? Last I checked those car's start at 98k.

njobe89 08-13-2014 07:42 AM

i honestly wouldn't pay 60k for Z, even if it did have 400hp. That's just crazy. You have people here who invested about 15-20k and are having 500-600+ whp cars. so why pay for one with 400hp that's 60k. o.0

Firebase99 08-13-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2929285)
I hope your right but I really don't think you are. I don't think nissan is looking at the mustang as much as there looking at the s2000, supra, and a potential new RX-7. All the info we've gotten so far sounds an awful lot like the info we've gotten from Toyota and Honda. So for 30,000 I would expect the turbo 4 and I just don't see that beating the 5.0. The car market has changed a lot since the 300zx. I for one would pay 60k in a second if the car is worth it.

Ive been saying 6 cylinder hybrid for over a year now. Theyll use the existing Q50 stuff, tweak the crap, boom 410+ HP, 5.0 fighter for $30-ish base. They ALREADY have existing hardware to match/best it. Just like the G37 was to the 370. They dont need to re-tool all that much for a Z35. And by the time the Z35 debuts they will have all the hybrid, drivetrain kinks worked out.

Firebase99 08-13-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2929289)
Where can u get a new 911s for 60k? Last I checked those car's start at 98k.

Yea, but a starting $60K Nissan? Thats the price point Im seriously staring look at a 911. Id never pay $60K for a Nissan either unless they dropped the price on the GTR lol

watson853 08-13-2014 07:50 AM

We shall see. I didn't think about the Q50 equipment so you do make a good argument. Still how do explain the two different engine options that we have here'd so much about. By your logic the turbo four model would have to start considerably lower than 30k.

Firebase99 08-13-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2929295)
We shall see. I didn't think about the Q50 equipment so you do make a good argument. Still how do explain the two different engine options that we have here'd so much about. By your logic the turbo four model would have to start considerably lower than 30k.

yea, probably an 86 fighter for low, mid 20's, then you step up to $30-32K base, some nice options with tech package etc maybe $39K, much like now, maybe a bit hiher due to inflation but relative for the 5.0, S2000, Supra etc level.

Dirk McGurck 08-13-2014 09:33 AM

This can't be the new S2000 you all are talking about comparing to the Z, right?

2015 Honda S2000 concept and specs | 2015 Cars Review

Firebase99 08-13-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 2929426)
This can't be the new S2000 you all are talking about comparing to the Z, right?

2015 Honda S2000 concept and specs | 2015 Cars Review

Me? I havent looked up anything about a future S2000, just going off what others stated. That link shows a paltry vehicle for competition for a Z35 platform.

watson853 08-13-2014 10:00 AM

This article is much more recent and what I was referring to.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/3...-Life-7721784/


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