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Old 09-17-2009, 08:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maryland state tax on cars is 6% if I'm not mistaken, we should be able to figure an out the door price for ya

Edit: I'm an idiot and thought it was maryland from his previous post since they are both M states....Missouri is 4.255% ???
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The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.
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The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.
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one thing i see wrong with the current deal you got with that dealer is if they arent willing to come off msrp then they arent worth messing with...

FuszNissan is less than 4 hours from you and he will do better...

another good thing to get out of going to St L is making a day trip out of it, taking the wifey site seeing, and light lunch or early dinner then head back home...or better yet spend the night in a 4 star hotel over looking the city...if your ole lady is into that sort of thing...helps her feel better about the whole deal too...
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less than a 4 hour drive east on hwy 70
walk away they are asking over msrp, then let them keep it...

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Wow, what a story. I read every post and decided to have a non-confrontational talk with my wife. I told her I had decided it was my decision and she was going to have to live with it. Her concern was that I am 54 and she is 50. This is my second (and last) marriage and we have two wonderful kids, a girl who is 11 and a boy who is 7. She is worried about us taking on more years of debt getting older and having such young children. She knows that as a teacher, I can't last forever. I pointed out that if I retired in 5 years, the SUV would be 8 years old. I will probably go 6 to 11 more years. Somewhere along the way, I'd have to get a new car anyway and the SUV depreciates each year. My SUV is in like new pristine condition, metallic red and loaded.
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Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.
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Wow, that is what I didn't want to read but needed to read. Walk away. When I saw that red car, I had to have it. I didn't tell them this. But when they started the "Let me go back and talk with the manager" and "I tried to get him down but he won't budge" routine, I knew I was being jerked around. Too bad. I will check out Fuz Nissan. As an aside, the salesman was so young I wondered if he was old enough to drive. He was a thin high energy type, on the phone talking with his lawyer because he put "earnest" money down on a house and the realtor wanted to keep it, and telling me he was going to take the money and go on a vacation to Germany. The Internet sales guy was very low key, soft spoken, but gave me the same "Let me talk to the manager" routine.
ya, sounds like the sales manager doesnt want to budge...

not worth the hassle if you ask me...

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Thanks a million. I had the terms wrong. Maybe its because I am beat from fighting some kind of sinus deal. Anyway, it is McCarthy Nissan in Blue Springs Missouri, it is the base model with the spoiler. No other options (kind of a cheap radio too), six speed, and fast. The color is red and interior charcoal? Thanks for the help. I sure wish I had the car.
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Good for you John!!! It's nice to see that some Z-drivers don't have to masquerade as men around here because they still are men! Again...good for you!!!
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The car is the base model with, I believe the sport package or whatever they call the cosmetic package with air dam or wing across the back. In Jackson County Missouri, I believe the sales tax is 7.35%. The car has no other extras. It has an MSRP slightly above 29K but they want 31K. Now, if they won't come down, do I walk and wait? What I don't like is the idea of losing the car may make me jump when I should wait. You folks are doing me a great service and I really appreciate it. I have been a Mazda man for years, six Rx7s in all and am ready to make the jump. They tried to sell me a 2008 Rx8 much cheaper and then an Altima coupe. I want the Z.
what dealership and what color is it? 29k won't include the sports package but it might have a spoiler. If you give the dealership I can see the car and double check the options
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this thread made me feel good about not being married! thx guys!
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Assuming you were looking at a Base+aero, the MSRP would be about 30,600...invoice would be 28,500. add in the 5k you still owe on the pathfinder and subtract the rx7 and you should be about 32,500-33,000+tt&l. Don't pay a cent over that!

Fusz is a Z enthusiast and a good guy. He knows the business and will do anything he can to help a fellow Z enthusiast out with a purchase. I think you will find your experience with him is 10x better than a random dealership.
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8.3%.... why so high

get a loan from one of those credit unions
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You just get a loan to cover what your total cost is going to be after your trades. The dealer will give you a final price, you hand them the check and pay the difference (if any), and drive away in your new Z.

It may be more difficult since your asking to borrow more than the MSRP of the car, but it is definitely worth a try since they are going to make a killing with 8.3% interest. Check with a couple of your local credit unions first, and if your credit score is 750ish you should have no problem with penfed even if the loan amount is a little higher than MSRP.
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Thanks. that helps. I believe my score is not that good hence the interest. It is clear that they make a killing off the interest which is why they were so happy to move so fast. My last email with the dealer was on Monday. I told them my wife wanted a payment of $400 and they are talking $544. I told them she was willing to compromise if they would and might go up to $500. They wrote back and said no-can-do on a 35K car and would I like to look at an altima coupe? I did not respond. The hard part of this is waiting. My youngest brother, the one who worked for a dealer, says I cannot send anymore emails, don't visit, and sit tight for a month. He believes if the car is unsold in 30 days, they will contact me and make a better deal. One maybe stupid question. I bought 2 cars from this dealer over the last 3 years. Shouldn't that can't for something? I guess not. Last dumb question, I take my cars in for service and have noticed a constant turn-over in sales people. They seem to last 6 months or less and that is it. What does that indicate?

I contacted Fusz and Lee's Summit Nissan (almost across the street from where I work) and they are supposed to send me an "instant quote."
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