Oil cooler for 2014, still needed?

kenchan · 02-14-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by winnre

I heard horror stories about older Z's needing an oil cooler system, but then I hear, maybe, that they fixed these issues and a 2014 Z is fine as is. but of course the dealer recommends a cooler. What's the consensus on this? Waste of money or go for it? I don't drive on the track but I do want power and reliabilty.

i heard horror stories about newer Z drivers.

MJB · 02-14-2014, 02:05 PM

When I was in Texas I was hitting 250f in stop go traffic on a regular basis.. Even if I wasn't going into limp mode, I still don't want a car to run that hot oil temp. Not only are you losing hp at those higher temps, but I'm assuming the oil is going to break down alot faster. Once I installed an oil cooler, 180-200 was the norm.

ACE_20 · 02-14-2014, 02:15 PM

I also live in texas and with 15 minutes of spirited driving I see temps over 240. I ordered the FI new oil cooler so my baby will stay coool no matter what type of driving.

eastwest2300 · 02-14-2014, 02:31 PM

I have a 34 row cooler on my 2010, on the highway i see temps at or around 180 depending on outside temps (50+) and the block off plate off.

jcosta79 · 02-14-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You don't routinely see temps over 220 degrees?

Sure. But that's not a problem. Anything North of 250 and I start getting worried. Below that shouldn't be an issue.

I've read different articles stating that ideal oil temperature is between 220-240 degrees, depending on your application. Some people say even higher. Some say lower. As long as I don't go into limp home mode, I don't worry about it. I change my oil frequently and use a good quality oil.

jcosta79 · 02-14-2014, 02:44 PM

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As for ultimate power potential, the general consensus among most racers is that hot oil and cool water make more power in most engines. Cold engine oil causes excessive frictional drag on the bearings and cylinder walls. A quality conventional motor oil will tolerate oil sump temperatures of up to 250 degrees, but starts breaking down over 275 degrees. The traditional approach is to try to hold oil temperatures between 230 and 260 degrees. Even on a short-duration, drag-only combo where oil is frequently changed, I would not want to routinely see under-200-degree oil temps.

What Is The Optimum Engine Oil Temperature? - Hot Rod Magazine

jcosta79 · 02-14-2014, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

I have a 34 row cooler on my 2010, on the highway i see temps at or around 180 depending on outside temps (50+) and the block off plate off.

That's probably too cool as you want to get the oil above 212 degrees to get all the water out of it.

kenchan · 02-14-2014, 02:55 PM

220 is a healthy temp and that's where my Z is on a hot summer day motoring her pretty hard. no cooler needed for my driving at least. ive not seen it go over 230F

VCuomo · 02-14-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

I live in SoCal and my temps on stock 13 sits at 200 around town stop and go. The temps drop to about 180 while cruising on the FW.

Same here for my '09 (although the temps stay at 200 on the fwy).

7speed · 02-14-2014, 05:05 PM

Never seen temps over 230. And it only got there from sustained illegal speeds between Dallas and Houston or Texas to Arkansas. 220 is usually where it holds to and that's no oil cooler and still quick driving.
I wouldn't mine having one for drag strip days that way I can be closer to 200 deg. So not a bad idea but remember you will probably have more maintenance issues to look for with one, like leaking lines etc.

winnre · 02-14-2014, 05:37 PM

My temp sits between 180 and 220 depending. But what about an August drive to Vegas? Or driving for 20 hours? Maybe it is not critical but it would help at least a little?

alcheng · 02-14-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by winnre

My temp sits between 180 and 220 depending. But what about an August drive to Vegas? Or driving for 20 hours? Maybe it is not critical but it would help at least a little?

will you have an August drive to Vegas....???

will you have a drive for 20 hours...???

winnre · 02-14-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

will you have an August drive to Vegas....???

will you have a drive for 20 hours...???

I go to Vegas every August. And I want to drive to Tampa, and back, so yes.

KaienZ34 · 02-14-2014, 06:36 PM

If you don't track it you don't need it, limp mode doesn't happen till 260*+. Limp mode doesn't mean you broke something it's just the car's fail safe so you don't break it.

KaienZ34 · 02-14-2014, 06:39 PM

180*-220* is normal operating oil temps, if there was no gauge most people would never even think about oil temps or see any problems. The 350z ran really close to the same temps, no gauge no issues go figure.

02-14-2014, 02:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
MJB A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Age: 40 Posts: 1,498 Drives: a POS truck Rep Power: 495	When I was in Texas I was hitting 250f in stop go traffic on a regular basis.. Even if I wasn't going into limp mode, I still don't want a car to run that hot oil temp. Not only are you losing hp at those higher temps, but I'm assuming the oil is going to break down alot faster. Once I installed an oil cooler, 180-200 was the norm. PaulZ370 likes this. __________________ 09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.

02-14-2014, 02:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
ACE_20 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: houston Posts: 41 Drives: 09 370z b m6 Rep Power: 11	I also live in texas and with 15 minutes of spirited driving I see temps over 240. I ordered the FI new oil cooler so my baby will stay coool no matter what type of driving. __________________ \| FI OIL COOLER\| STILLEN GEN 3\|

02-14-2014, 02:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 90,818 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684549	I have a 34 row cooler on my 2010, on the highway i see temps at or around 180 depending on outside temps (50+) and the block off plate off. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

02-14-2014, 02:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	220 is a healthy temp and that's where my Z is on a hot summer day motoring her pretty hard. no cooler needed for my driving at least. ive not seen it go over 230F 4r3s likes this.

02-14-2014, 05:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
7speed Track Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dallas Posts: 697 Drives: 09 370 sports clone Rep Power: 13	Never seen temps over 230. And it only got there from sustained illegal speeds between Dallas and Houston or Texas to Arkansas. 220 is usually where it holds to and that's no oil cooler and still quick driving. I wouldn't mine having one for drag strip days that way I can be closer to 200 deg. So not a bad idea but remember you will probably have more maintenance issues to look for with one, like leaking lines etc. __________________ 09 370z 6spd traded 1/12/15 for 15 Challenger RT 6spd

02-14-2014, 05:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
winnre Track Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Close to Redlands, CA Posts: 534 Drives: '14 370Z Touring Spt Rep Power: 12	My temp sits between 180 and 220 depending. But what about an August drive to Vegas? Or driving for 20 hours? Maybe it is not critical but it would help at least a little?

02-14-2014, 06:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 177	If you don't track it you don't need it, limp mode doesn't happen till 260+. Limp mode doesn't mean you broke something it's just the car's fail safe so you don't break it. __________________ "These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

02-14-2014, 06:39 PM	#30 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 177	180-220 is normal operating oil temps, if there was no gauge most people would never even think about oil temps or see any problems. The 350z ran really close to the same temps, no gauge no issues go figure. 4r3s likes this. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

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