Headers, CBE, HFCS

Stoney

Already have a borla catback, I'm under aged, my mom restricts me on things I can do , she said I can do headers and high flow cats as long as my setup is legal, and she won't let me do weight restriction things.

DEpointfive0

They're illegal. I guarantee it

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Stoney

What ? Shorty headers and hi flow cats? If that's what you're talking about it's not. Already checked with local pd and the states regulations.

Chuck33079

Nope. He's right. It's illegal to take off working cats. It's a federal law. Is it ever enforced? No. But it's not legal.

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Chuck33079

Wow. Then go spend your money on headers that will cost a fortune to install and will make zero power. We've explained it to you over and over. I guess the only thing that will convince you is being out a lot of money and a dyno sheet showing no gains.

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NismoZ70

Now it's starting to all make sense...

Stoney

Yep if I could do whatever I wanted I would get ppe headers

Chuck33079

Then why not wait until you're older and can make your own decisions rather then buying POS headers that are worse than stock because it's all you're allowed to do?

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Stoney

Okay I'll explain. I graduate in late May, I wanted to have all my performance parts ready to go before then, because I'm going to drive 8 hours to texas and have my car tuned at JOTECH, so then I will be done with my performance, another issue is I believe the mechanic I want to install my headers, I'm not sure if he will because he won't do anything illegal, (such as removing cats). And if he doesn't, odds are I'm going to pay 560 for headers and 560 for cats or something, (prices aren't the same), and around 360-480$ for install. (60$ per hour),,,(6-8hours)

DEpointfive0

Btw, once your mechanic starts, he ain't gonna charge you $360-480. He's going to charge you $700-800...

The shadiest of mechanics (one who is illegally in the US) quoted me $400, and a full day's labor.

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Chuck33079

Once he starts wrestling with getting the stock headers and cats out, that quoted price will double. The only way I could ever see shorty headers being worth it is if I was willing to DIY the job.

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alphajam

THIS. Honestly Stoney, it's your money or your parents money (I really don't know whose or care to know) we are just trying to help you out as much as possible. If you're hell bent on the stillen/berk setup, go for it. Just prepare yourself for the terrible money-power ratio.

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Stoney

I also really like louder noises from the exhaust, which I know you said HFCs will have plenty of exhaust note, but will LTH have the same effect?

IDZRVIT

So you want a louder exhaust noise? I'm surprised ater six pages noone has mentioned the most cost effective mod to achieve this - the ingenious washer trick!!!! Do a search for the how to.

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Stoney

Okay