Why didn't they add a capless gas cap?

Dwight Frye · 11-25-2013, 05:21 PM

It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

winnre · 11-25-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

Well look at the bright side -- if you drop your car keys you can push your Z around until it beeps and finds them for you.

onzedge · 11-26-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by winnre

Well look at the bright side -- if you drop your car keys you can push your Z around until it beeps and finds them for you.

winnre · 11-26-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

So who elected you to speak on behalf of "everyone"? Not me and I enjoy my capless gas cap. Now get over yourself.

Yay I have an ally!

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

Ever lock your keys in any of your previous cars? How many times have you locked your keys in your Z?

Almost did it the other day. I typically do that with new cars. smh

TerribleONE · 11-25-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

I have to disagree with this... I love not having to take my key out of my pocket.. and that you can start the car, lock it, and walk back in the house while its warming up..

MarkGideon · 11-26-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

I have to disagree with this... I love not having to take my key out of my pocket.. and that you can start the car, lock it, and walk back in the house while its warming up..

While my Z lives in the garage, this is the reason I like have the same feature in my Altima, which lives outdoors. No need for an extra house key during cold weather. (Well, the couple weeks per year is is close to cold for SC.)

scottIN · 11-26-2013, 09:43 AM

Stant was one of my clients. They're pretty much moved their operations from the US so I don't do much with them anymore. But here's the embroidery we did for this product when it was first launched.

4r3s · 11-26-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

Ever lock your keys in any of your previous cars? How many times have you locked your keys in your Z?

Dwight Frye · 11-27-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

Ever lock your keys in any of your previous cars? How many times have you locked your keys in your Z?

Yes. I locked my keys in my car once in 42 years of driving. It was in 1973. I was stoned. Not only did I lock my keys in the car, but I left it running. I popped the hood and pulled the coil wire to kill the engine. Walked about 6 blocks home, got the spare house key I had hidden outside, let myself into my apartment, got my spare car keys and hoofed it back to where my car was parked. After that I always had a spare key attached to my cars somewhere and not one of those worthless metal magnetic boxes. And you know what ? Never locked my keys in the car again and to use a spare key. It's all about training your brain not to do something stupid.

Haboob · 11-26-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd hear someone bitch about push button start.

Do you just hate science and technological advancement?

Do you hate cool?

Doesn't it also help prevent the ignition being punched and used with a screwdriver too?

Dwight Frye · 11-27-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd hear someone bitch about push button start.

Do you just hate science and technological advancement?

Do you hate cool?

Doesn't it also help prevent the ignition being punched and used with a screwdriver too?

Don't know and don't care about not having the ignition punched and used with a screwdriver. Don't hate technological advancement, just disagree with gimmicks that people think are "cool" when it leads to things like steering locks that fail when conventional key set ups have worked very reliably for many decades. And I was more comfortable driving without having my keys in my pants pocket or wondering where to place them.

Haboob · 11-27-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

Don't know and don't care about not having the ignition punched and used with a screwdriver. Don't hate technological advancement, just disagree with gimmicks that people think are "cool" when it leads to things like steering locks that fail when conventional key set ups have worked very reliably for many decades. And I was more comfortable driving without having my keys in my pants pocket or wondering where to place them.

I don't, nor won't have a steering lock problem.

Also, I love not having to ever take my keys out of my pocket. It's so annoying having to go in and out of my pocket with keys. They inevitably get caught on something in my pocket and in general upset me.

The fob on the other hand, no issues.

Traditional ignitions have been theft prone for decades, the push-button not so much.

DIGItonium · 11-25-2013, 08:05 AM

Given Nissan's track record for fuel related things: starvation, sending unit, auto shutoff valve, etc., this is one more thing Nissan can screw up lol.

takjak2 · 11-25-2013, 10:18 AM

If you ever want to fill the car from gas-gans, like at the track, you don't want a factory capless system. The Ford system is a real pain and requires a stupid special funnel to use with gas-cans.

Red__Zed · 11-25-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by takjak2

If you ever want to fill the car from gas-gans, like at the track, you don't want a factory capless system. The Ford system is a real pain and requires a stupid special funnel to use with gas-cans.

worked with my gas cans without the (included) funnel.

I think it works with anything that is the new CARB design.

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DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	Given Nissan's track record for fuel related things: starvation, sending unit, auto shutoff valve, etc., this is one more thing Nissan can screw up lol. m4a1mustang, JARblue and Haboob like this. __________________

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11-25-2013, 05:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 15	It's a solution to a non existent problem, just like the push button start. Things like this to awe the video game generation have unintended consequences. I am OK with the keyless entry but had Nissan stuck with a conventional arrangement to stick a key in an ignition switch we wouldn't have the stupid engineering of the steering lock that failed and wouldn't have a big wad of keys in our pockets or in the cup holder because they would be in the ignition where they worked pretty well for about the last 100 years.

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scottIN Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Castle, Indiana Posts: 764 Drives: '12 370Z Rep Power: 54	Stant was one of my clients. They're pretty much moved their operations from the US so I don't do much with them anymore. But here's the embroidery we did for this product when it was first launched.