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Originally Posted by Red__Zed It needs sandbags in addition to winter tires Ole 53/47 doesn't do you much good in the winter either. People managed for years in the winter

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Old 10-31-2013, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It needs sandbags in addition to winter tires

Ole 53/47 doesn't do you much good in the winter either.
People managed for years in the winter before every car on the road became FWD/AWD.

Now if you're on the stock tires, I'd agree with "unsafe" wholeheartedly.
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People managed for years in the winter before every car on the road became FWD/AWD.

Now if you're on the stock tires, I'd agree with "unsafe" wholeheartedly.
Sure, but they stuck sandbags in the back just like I recommended on the Z.

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I define "unsafe" as a situation presenting an unnecessary and avoidable risk of a reasonably foreseeable threat to my safety and the safety of my passengers and my car. I've practiced law for 40 years and seen way too much pain and suffering caused by people placing themselves in such "unsafe" situations. Trust me---it just isn't worth it.
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I define "unsafe" as a situation presenting an unnecessary and avoidable risk of a reasonably foreseeable threat to my safety and the safety of my passengers and my car. I've practiced law for 40 years and seen way too much pain and suffering caused by people placing themselves in such "unsafe" situations. Trust me---it just isn't worth it.
Your lawyer is showing.

I was kinda asking what you mean by saying the Z is unsafe in winter.
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Your lawyer is showing.

I was kinda asking what you mean by saying the Z is unsafe in winter.
i think he was referring to the other dumbarse drivers running cheap pos a/s tires smashing into your prefect Z.

it's an avoidable risk. get a winter beater, hibernate your Z.
even if you die in your beater, your Z is safe!
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i think he was referring to the other dumbarse drivers running cheap pos a/s tires smashing into your prefect Z.

it's an avoidable risk. get a winter beater, hibernate your Z.
even if you die in your beater, your Z is safe!
Yep. That's pretty much what I said. LOL
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i think he was referring to the other dumbarse drivers running cheap pos a/s tires smashing into your prefect Z.

it's an avoidable risk. get a winter beater, hibernate your Z.
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Yep. That's pretty much what I said. LOL
Ah. I read it as there was something about the Z that made it unsafe in winter conditions, not that winter driving is less safe than other times of year.
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