Which stock cars can take us?

DEpointfive0 · 09-10-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidInIndy

Aaahhh...good to know.

Kinda funny...with how beefy the Camaros are, I thought for sure we could take them. Whenever I chat cars with my neighbor (Mr. Cobra), he voluntarily says that he thinks my car (roadster = the "slow" Z) could take his if it was a track where handling/cornering was involved.

Curious what everybody thought of that comment by him.

$10 says his Camaro would kick your àss up and down the track too. From what I have read on this site, the 5.0 stock (maybe with the track package?) is impossible for us to beat without serious mods

Volk Z · 09-10-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidInIndy

Aaahhh...good to know.

Kinda funny...with how beefy the Camaros are, I thought for sure we could take them. Whenever I chat cars with my neighbor (Mr. Cobra), he voluntarily says that he thinks my car (roadster = the "slow" Z) could take his if it was a track where handling/cornering was involved.

Curious what everybody thought of that comment by him.

Well your neighbor is partially correct, the convertible is the slower Z... Its heavier and has the same HP. Base Z will beat you in your vert if the drivers are equal...

If I'm not mistaken you vert Z weighs around 3600 pounds vs base Z that weighs around 3200 pounds. Every 100 pounds is equivelent to 10 hp or a tenth at the track (rule of thumb numbers).

So if your concerned and want to be faster without modding your motor then put your Z on a diet.

A lotus Elise with 190 HP would destroy your Z simply due to power to weight ratio.

Chuck33079 · 09-10-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z

A lotus Elise with 190 HP would destroy your Z simply due to power to weight ratio.

Not in a straight line.

Volk Z · 09-10-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Not in a straight line.

OP's car is a 370z Vert 1/4 mile is around 13.5
Lotus Elise 1/4 mile 13.3

So YES in a straight line the Lotus elise with 189 Hp would beat the Ops car meeting his criteria of NO forced induction.

jpkirk · 09-12-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidInIndy

Aaahhh...good to know.

Kinda funny...with how beefy the Camaros are, I thought for sure we could take them. Whenever I chat cars with my neighbor (Mr. Cobra), he voluntarily says that he thinks my car (roadster = the "slow" Z) could take his if it was a track where handling/cornering was involved.

Curious what everybody thought of that comment by him.

I think a 2013 Camaro SS with the 1LE package would beat it up. R&T pulled 1.09 g's on a skid pad with one. It's heavier with 90+ more hp.

jk

Lug · 09-13-2013, 05:40 PM

The JUKE-R

bdavis89 · 09-10-2013, 09:33 AM

Whats the issue with Turbo cars? They come stock last time I checked?

DavidInIndy · 09-10-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89

Whats the issue with Turbo cars? They come stock last time I checked?

I have nothing against turbos. It's just that the last time I checked, turbos are not standard manufacturer equipment on Z's...just trying to compare apples to apples (or naturally aspirated to naturally aspirated). :-)

enkei2k · 09-10-2013, 09:34 AM

Toyota Prius

and

Nissan Leaf

proof of the Leaf beating a Z:

Chuck33079 · 09-10-2013, 09:34 AM

If we make the qualifications specific enough, you can beat anything. Same year, same price, stock, no turbos, same color, same number of cupholders, etc.

And OP, where are you getting 2011 M3s and 911s for $40k?

DEpointfive0 · 09-10-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If we make the qualifications specific enough, you can beat anything. Same year, same price, stock, no turbos, same color, same number of cupholders, etc.

And OP, where are you getting 2011 M3s and 911s for $40k?

Yeah, maybe '09. Got my 2008 ISF in... 2011 with 5000 miles for $40.5k, and that's because the owner just didn't want it, otherwise it should've been $43-44k

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-10-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If we make the qualifications specific enough, you can beat anything. Same year, same price, stock, no turbos, same color, same number of cupholders, etc.

And OP, where are you getting 2011 M3s and 911s for $40k?

Yeah unless they have a salvage title, very high milage, or a lemon your not going to find those under 40k unless they are bone stock which they almost never are AND they are '06 models or older.

And a Jeep STR8 is 60K and up.

If your comparing a new Z MSRP price to a used car bottom of the barrel price its an unfair comparison. A used '09 370z bottom of the barrel price is in the low 20's.

Gotta compare apples to apples.

Zteve · 09-10-2013, 09:41 AM

Z was never designed to be a straight line 1/4 mile car.

synolimit · 09-10-2013, 11:40 AM

WRX and STI.

O turbo, boo

6MT · 09-10-2013, 02:16 PM

a racing thread? ...................

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