Are you a ROAD BULLY when driving your Z?

critical · 08-15-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

I'm not a cyclist and I don't know about PA (I'm going to venture it's the same), but in Hawaii the cyclist has the right to ride in the middle of the lane in the right lane and if making a left turn can ride in the middle of the left lane to make the left turn.

Most people including cyclist, don't realize that this is the law here. Thus I see a lot of cyclist almost get killed for riding far on the right and the car squeezing past them in the same lane pushing them even further to the curb. If the cyclist falls and gets hurt because of this, the driver of the automobile is at fault and can be convicted for manslaughter or worse yet murder 2 if the driver was witnessed harassing the cyclist.

Be patient, use your blinker and wait for a good opportunity to pass. Think of it like following a slow truck, everyone is entitled to the road, not just cars.

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

bdavis89 · 08-15-2013, 09:30 PM

If these idiots would just get over to the right when they're not passing, then everything would be fine and dandy.

Magic Bus · 08-16-2013, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by critical

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

Sharing the Road (FFDL 37) - Safety Tips for Bicyclists and Motorists

Cyclists can definitely be idiots and inconsiderate when they're on the road, but so can automobile drivers. My post was to hopefully inform 370Z forum members that the pendulum in the criminal & civil courts have swung in favor of the pedestrian/bicyclist and to share the road.

Hope the above link works as you'll see the California and Hawaii laws do not differ much. Bicyclist have a right to the road as much as a car. If the lane is large, the cyclist should ride to the right, if it's small they don't have too. Question is, what's a large lane and what's a small lane (most of the lanes in Hawaii are small, thus they can ride in the center), plus how far right to the curb is right? Just be patient and considerate out there.

osbornsm · 08-16-2013, 09:57 AM

I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule...

Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!!

Mt Tam I am · 08-16-2013, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by critical

Cyclists don't have the right to ride 30mph under the speed limit and in the middle of the lane in CA. They must go as far over as possible if they can't keep up with the speed limit. Most of the time they ride in groups and side by side while going slowly. I think they should just get off the road.

You should hear the profanity in my head right now just reading this.

my2004Z · 08-16-2013, 01:56 PM

I typically do what is necessary to make space between myself and other drivers. Sometimes I accelerate, sometimes I brake, sometimes I go into slalom mode. I can usually influence the other drivers behavior with my presence and by simply doing little things. If I speed up to 2-3 mph faster then the next guy he will try to not let me pass or take off like a bat out of hell thinking it suddenly turned into a race. One thing that gets my temperature up is something we run into here in NM is what a lot of people call a Mexican road block. It's where drivers in each lane refuse to pass one another and block up the entire road. I've seen it where 6 lanes of the freeway were blocked. It causes a chain reaction in traffic where people are at a dead stop 2 miles back and everyone thinks there was an accident. As far as bullying goes - this is the wild west baby, don't write a check that your a$$ can't deliver...

Mt Tam I am · 08-16-2013, 02:07 PM

In my 300ZXtt I could sneak up on bikes (without trying) and startle them with an engine rev.

With the 370 and it's loudness, this has never happened.

critical · 08-16-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Sharing the Road (FFDL 37) - Safety Tips for Bicyclists and Motorists

Cyclists can definitely be idiots and inconsiderate when they're on the road, but so can automobile drivers. My post was to hopefully inform 370Z forum members that the pendulum in the criminal & civil courts have swung in favor of the pedestrian/bicyclist and to share the road.

Hope the above link works as you'll see the California and Hawaii laws do not differ much. Bicyclist have a right to the road as much as a car. If the lane is large, the cyclist should ride to the right, if it's small they don't have too. Question is, what's a large lane and what's a small lane (most of the lanes in Hawaii are small, thus they can ride in the center), plus how far right to the curb is right? Just be patient and considerate out there.

The DMV is not a great legal source and neither is the CHP. I think both places state that tint on the front windows is illegal when there are applications where it is perfectly legal.

But back to cyclists. That's good to know about the courts. Here's the law:

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21202. (a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed
less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction
at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand
curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following
situations:
(1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle
proceeding in the same direction.
(2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a
private road or driveway.
(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but
not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles,
pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes)
that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge,
subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this
section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for
a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the
lane.
(4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.
(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway,
which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or
more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or
edge of that roadway as practicable.

CA Codes (veh:21200-21212)

Fact is these bicyclists that ride side by side or in big packs are breaking the law.

Magic Bus · 08-16-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by critical

Fact is these bicyclists that ride side by side or in big packs are breaking the law.

Idiots

Vertigo · 08-16-2013, 03:46 PM

I'm going to start jogging in the bike lane to give them a dose of their own medicine.

JARblue · 08-16-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vertigo

I'm going to start jogging in the bike lane to give them a dose of their own medicine.

how about a tiny moped or motorized scooter

just make sure you replace the beep-beep horn with one of these

Vertigo · 08-16-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

how about a tiny moped or motorized scooter

just make sure you replace the beep-beep horn with one of these

One of those motor carts that old people use at the grocery store would be fast enough

KERMIT · 08-17-2013, 02:23 AM

I drive fast cars and am also a cyclist. I don't tolerate ignorant idiots in either group..

Leadfoot · 08-18-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I enjoy being polite while driving - letting other people merge, giving pedestrians the right of way, yielding to people turning in front of me in traffic. However, I have to balance that with my hate of people who don't pay attention to their driving or others around them and my habit of driving 10 mph over the speed limit.

If you're driving too timidly, I'm probably not going to stop to let you pull out in front of me.
If you're driving like an a$$hat in traffic, I'm probably not going to make the effort to get out of your way (I probably want to drive faster than you anyway).

I will make aggressive maneuvers when I have plenty of room to put distance between myself and other idiot drivers who I'm not interested in being behind, adjacent to, or anywhere near (like if I see you on a fucking cell phone). My goal on the highway is typically to find a big gap in the traffic and set cruise control. I drive the side streets a lot during my daily commute to avoid traffic as much as possible.

AMEN!

Leadfoot · 08-18-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

Just don't drive <= 50 MPH on the left lane of a 65 MPH freeway on a beautiful dry sunny day when everyone's on their way to work.

Well, that's what I saw this morning. I switched over and drove past her, and she switched over and continued driving no more than 50 MPH slowing a bunch of people down on the right lane. Imagine the urge to bully such driver haha.

People who drive in the left lane like that makes me rage the most!

08-15-2013, 09:30 PM	#77 (permalink)
bdavis89 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 586 Drives: '10 370Z PW Auto Rep Power: 14	If these idiots would just get over to the right when they're not passing, then everything would be fine and dandy. PapoZalsa likes this. __________________ 2010 Pearl White Touring Sport Package \| Navigation \| 7 Speed Automatic

08-16-2013, 09:57 AM	#79 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 423	I'm fine if people follow the #1 rule... Left lane fast, right lane slow !!!! DIGItonium, PapoZalsa and Leadfoot like this. __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

08-16-2013, 01:56 PM	#81 (permalink)
my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 37	I typically do what is necessary to make space between myself and other drivers. Sometimes I accelerate, sometimes I brake, sometimes I go into slalom mode. I can usually influence the other drivers behavior with my presence and by simply doing little things. If I speed up to 2-3 mph faster then the next guy he will try to not let me pass or take off like a bat out of hell thinking it suddenly turned into a race. One thing that gets my temperature up is something we run into here in NM is what a lot of people call a Mexican road block. It's where drivers in each lane refuse to pass one another and block up the entire road. I've seen it where 6 lanes of the freeway were blocked. It causes a chain reaction in traffic where people are at a dead stop 2 miles back and everyone thinks there was an accident. As far as bullying goes - this is the wild west baby, don't write a check that your a$$ can't deliver... Leadfoot and Ghostvette like this.

08-16-2013, 02:07 PM	#82 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3842	In my 300ZXtt I could sneak up on bikes (without trying) and startle them with an engine rev. With the 370 and it's loudness, this has never happened. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

08-16-2013, 03:46 PM	#85 (permalink)
Vertigo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 15,476 Drives: 370z / R32 Rep Power: 220	I'm going to start jogging in the bike lane to give them a dose of their own medicine. my2004Z, Mr&Mrs, JARblue and 3 others like this.

08-17-2013, 02:23 AM	#88 (permalink)
KERMIT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Republic of Wadiya Posts: 301 Drives: Ms. Daisy Rep Power: 13	I drive fast cars and am also a cyclist. I don't tolerate ignorant idiots in either group.. Leadfoot likes this. __________________ Steering wheel with Z emblem, keyless entry, 3.7L with dual overhead cams, am/fm radio, ABS brakes, windshield, air in tires

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