Nismo or boss ?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Caustic

The whole live axle vs IRS is a ridiculous debate. Billy Johnson is right from a technical standpoint. But he is also speaking from a professional standpoint, which most of are not.

The main difference between a live (stick, solid, or whatever you want to call it) vs IRS is grip and consistency. When a wheel connected to a live axle hits a bump, both wheels are affected in terrible ways. It completely throws off the handling to all but the best of drivers.

IRS is a benefit when a wheel hits a bump, the opposing wheel is still settled, the handling characteristics on the opposing wheel haven't changed. This creates consistency and predictability for handling in the majority of conditions.

The point being is that when you see Mustangs closing in on M3 lap times, everyone points it out as the Mustang being as fast and as good as the M3. But the reality is these those lap times are close because professional drivers have the ability to correct for the Mustangs weaknesses.

You put weekend warrior track day drivers in those two cars, the driver in the M3 will consistently outperform the Mustang driver by a large amount. The Mustang driver will have their hands full every time they clip an apex and roll over rumble strips.

Live axle technology is good for just one thing, price. If there were little difference between live and IRS, why does every high end race car have IRS?

Drivers correcting cars weaknesses???? You make too much sense Caustic. Don't you know mustangs are just superior. period. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED.

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Drivers correcting cars weaknesses???? You make too much sense Caustic. Don't you know mustangs are just superior. period. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED.

Only the fanboys sound like that. Or just insecure Z owners that think every 5.0 owner is out to prove their car is superior.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Only the fanboys sound like that. Or just insecure Z owners that think every 5.0 owner is out to prove their car is superior.

Naw... problem here is... people act like the 5.0 is the only other sports car in the world. What's fanboy is fanboy's consistently protecting their favorite cars rep against the 5.0 or vice versa.

In the end of the day. All these cars perform well on the street. Where most azzholes are driving these cars anyway. Everyone is always bringing a different position on their favorite sports car to override the next car. At the end of the day, a weakness in a sports car is a weakness. none of us drive ferrari's. All of y'all need to get over yourselves. Fvck Z's and Fvck Mvstangs. Neither car is perfect. Just enjoy your cars and stop trying to burst each others bubbles.

Ps caustic made hella sense when he talked about professional drivers. A cars weaknesses can be overcome by a driver with enough seat time. It's a point that's always negated in the forum. That rule applies to any car.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If you are ever in DC let me know. I want to buy your azz a beer!

As long as it's a sealed bottle and not a mugg!!!!

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

As long as it's a sealed bottle and not a mugg!!!!

Tazicon · 05-28-2013, 01:21 PM

I pulled up to a stop light on the way to work this morning..........., 2 Cameros, 3 Mustangs and one Challenger.

To me that speaks volumes as I see tons of all 3 of those cars. They must be alright in someones book. I personally like cars you may not even see once a week........that is unless you are my neighbor.

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05-28-2013, 01:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tazicon Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 773 Drives: German/British cars Rep Power: 16	I pulled up to a stop light on the way to work this morning..........., 2 Cameros, 3 Mustangs and one Challenger. To me that speaks volumes as I see tons of all 3 of those cars. They must be alright in someones book. I personally like cars you may not even see once a week........that is unless you are my neighbor.