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Every car has it's problems, troll. Even your beloved BS cars... Your mouth must look identical to someone's azzhole. Cuz all you talk is shyt.

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Red__Zed

Don't have Camaro numbers, but they were doing much better than Ford last I checked.

blackcherry20

TY!

I will tell you , I live in a very depresssed area of Ohio and there are sooooo many mustangs, all years, all versions....but mostly run down and not well taken care of and badly modded....embarasses me to think I almost bought one.

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Vaughanabe13

Same here in Iowa. Tons of rundown and riced-out mustangs around here. Lately I've seen more challengers and chargers pop up as well. You don't even get a second look if you drive one because they're so common. There are literally grandmas around here that drive them. To me it seems they're only popular because they're so much cheaper and easier to come by than the Z. Every once in a while I will see a new Mustang that looks nice, but IMO they are cheapened by the huge number of junky old ones on the road.

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UNKNOWN_370

Selling more than ford still, but GM numbers dropped as well, Camaro was selling in the 6 digits for a while. Now the are in the 80,000 units annual range, give or take 5,000 units

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Vaughanabe13

The Z34 looks 100x better than any other car mentioned in this thread. I know power is everything for some people, but I wanted a car that also looked like pure sex, so I got a 370Z. I guarantee you all of those people in the comments of that article would turn their head as a 370Z drove by. They can justify why they don't want to buy one, but that doesn't change the fact they will keep their eyes glued to it like magnets until it's out of sight.

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My_third_Z

This. I was walking to my car in a parking lot yesterday and saw a young guy (~20) looking at my car. When I opened the door he said, "Hey man, nice car!". Had I been driving a car that sells 10 times as well, there's no way that conversation happens because I'm just one of 1000s on the road. I'll take my slow, heavy Z, any day over the Mustang or Camaro.

2xtreme1

YES!!!
370Z is just so sexy .
Looks attracted me first. After looking at engine specs I thought 332hp would be enough for me. Coming from a Honda with probably 100hp it is a rather big leap.

hrtbrknprince

I think the Z is very much overpriced compared to Camaro SS and Mustang GT from a performance standpoint. You used to be able to argue that the fit and finish on those cars was terrible but it isn't so anymore. The Z is still better but not by a long shot these days. The main problem with the Z(to enthusiasts) is that it doesn't respond well to mods. Most enthusiasts will buy the car they like regardless of if it's better than its competitors or not with the intention of modding the car to BE better. With the Z it takes 10k to boost it so that It can actually compete with cars that most guys can throw I/h/E on and be hauling a$$. Which can really only be solved by boost.
If Nissan could have somehow boosted the vq35/37 even if it was only to like 375hp at least then we'd have a car that would have been more likely to respond to mods not to mention easier to tune etc.

DR_

The 2003 350z started in the $26k range, that is why they sold a ton of them. The current Z prices are too high to get high sales volume. The next Z needs to have a base model in the $26k range again and a 2+2 option again and it would compete well against the BRZ.

theDreamer

No 2+2 option, keep it 2 seater only, but I agree on lowering the price per the current performance. If they opted to do a 3.0L and add boost at the current price point it would be worth it.

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Nailzs

You're also comparing the 2003 economy with the 2013 economy, which has TONS of reasons why the 350Z sold so well.

bdavis89

What the average consumer looks at:

200hp for $24k - FR-S/BRZ
300hp for $24k - V6 Mustang/Camaro
300hp for $32k - 370z
400hp for $32k - Mustang GT/Camaro

What's the best value for hp? Mustang/Camaro

I, like a lot of people here, picked the 370z for the more "sporty" feel, design, and because it was less common. However, the first thing people mention and compare is hp (rightly or wrongly) and that's just the way it is. There certainly is something crazy cool about having 400hp from a $32k car. I almost got one, but it didn't have the same steering "feel" as the Mustang (regardless of how well it actually handles, it doesn't FEEL like its handling well). Most roads are straight(ish), so people in the USA value power more.

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UNKNOWN_370

Amen, hallelujah, and preach on brother... People who buy Z's need to feel like they are one with their car. Being one with the Z helps overcome many of the Z's drawbacks.

But people are so media influenced that your chart is all they see.

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RonZwanson

That chart is pretty spot-on. I was considering a 2012 Mustang when I bought my Z, but I bought it for a lot of the same reasons everyone else did. You see a Mustang every three miles.

And somebody a couple posts up touched on why muscle cars are so popular in America. The majority of our roads are straight, wide, and cruise-friendly. While the ride of the Z may not bother a lot of people on this forum, myself included, it's not REALLY a cruise friendly car to most people. It's stiff, you sit low, there's no steering play, and it's loud.

I don't care about that stuff, so they weren't buying factors. I wanted the Z because it's not that common, and I live around some twisty back roads that are fun the zip around on. I also stayed away from the Mustang because used ham sandwiches have better resale value.

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