About navigation map version!

FPenvy · 04-29-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yeah, I can imagine the "service" is just plugging in a USB cable and running some software that applies the update. Soooooo tough.

JARblue · 04-29-2013, 10:50 AM

I heard a couple of stories where the dealer charged an extra 2 hours of labor on top of the update cost because that's how long it takes to install the 5 DVDs. The tech spends about 2 minutes per DVD actually working on it (i.e. swapping it out for the next disc) totaling 10 minutes of actual labor

FPenvy · 04-29-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I heard a couple of stories where the dealer charged an extra 2 hours of labor on top of the update cost because that's how long it takes to install the 5 DVDs. The tech spends about 2 minutes per DVD actually working on it (i.e. swapping it out for the next disc) totaling 10 minutes of actual labor

and this is why i do all the work i can on my own car lol

too bad i think i'm gonna buckle and use my free steering column lock change that nissan sent me. i need the clock spring in there replaced anyways (no power going to the lighting of the steering controls, and horn not working now, possibly no air bag either lol) so while they are in there might as well do a swap. all free but i dont trust any fckin lot boys after the last time my car was in there mysteriously was 12 extra miles put on my car (yes im that guy who takes pics to know what was on the car when it went it) now i wish i had my tuner put a valet map on my car lol

JARblue · 04-29-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

and this is why i do all the work i can on my own car lol

too bad i think i'm gonna buckle and use my free steering column lock change that nissan sent me. i need the clock spring in there replaced anyways (no power going to the lighting of the steering controls, and horn not working now, possibly no air bag either lol) so while they are in there might as well do a swap. all free but i dont trust any fckin lot boys after the last time my car was in there mysteriously was 12 extra miles put on my car (yes im that guy who takes pics to know what was on the car when it went it) now i wish i had my tuner put a valet map on my car lol

pull the fuse once you get the ESCL replaced...

I take pics of mileage, too, and I make sure someone in authority knows this before I leave the car. That way they know it's their a$$ if something is amiss. I want valet mode so bad.

I'm working with a tuner nearby on the new ECUtek software. They have a track Z they've been working with, and were looking for a street Z to build their tune in the new software. The multiple tune feature is still in development but will be available to me once it is finished and released by ECUtek. Hopefully I can get my car to them next weekend; they want $175 for the license and everything else is free

FPenvy · 04-29-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

pull the fuse once you get the ESCL replaced...

I take pics of mileage, too, and I make sure someone in authority knows this before I leave the car. That way they know it's their a$$ if something is amiss. I want valet mode so bad.

I'm working with a tuner nearby on the new ECUtek software. They have a track Z they've been working with, and were looking for a street Z to build their tune in the new software. The multiple tune feature is still in development but will be available to me once it is finished and released by ECUtek. Hopefully I can get my car to them next weekend; they want $175 for the license and everything else is free

well if they replace the faulty SCL i'm guessing the fuse SHOULDN'T need pulled but who knows lol

glad to hear i'm not the only one who does that lol i bitched about the mileage they tried saying they had to take it from the shop to the dealership shop (they have 2 shops due to volume of cars they sell/service) to reset the the power windows......which i have done myself with the window switches if the windows screw up. so thats BS lol

$175 is a great price

JARblue · 04-29-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

well if they replace the faulty SCL i'm guessing the fuse SHOULDN'T need pulled but who knows lol

They'll replace it with a Rev D, which had documented failures prior to the recall. I have a 2011 with Rev D, and I pulled my fuse last fall. I'm not in the recall.

FPenvy · 04-29-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

They'll replace it with a Rev D, which had documented failures prior to the recall. I have a 2011 with Rev D, and I pulled my fuse last fall. I'm not in the recall.

oh wonderful lol thanks nissan

scottIN · 04-29-2013, 01:46 PM

Just got the letter myself.

Trying to decide if I want to update or not. Honestly, the system isn't that great anyway. I've had a number of places it wouldn't find (but Google Maps did). Kinda crazy using a $3000 system that can't find a house when the free Google Maps on my wife's phone knows where it is.

theDreamer · 04-29-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scottIN

Just got the letter myself.

Trying to decide if I want to update or not. Honestly, the system isn't that great anyway. I've had a number of places it wouldn't find (but Google Maps did). Kinda crazy using a $3000 system that can't find a house when the free Google Maps on my wife's phone knows where it is.

Hey...it is kinda like when Apple Maps came out.

ocfoilist · 04-29-2013, 05:02 PM

I have an '09 and updated my maps last year to the 2012 version. You have to first purchase it online and then take the code they give you in to the dealer. Then the dealer does the install for you based on their own installation software tools.

When I first took my car in they had it sitting in the back for 2 hours while I waited. I kept checking on it and noticed that it wasn't being worked on and nothing was being installed. So I went to the head mechanic who told me that they were actually missing an installation disk and couldn't do it today. I asked they why in the world they had me waiting in their lobby for 2 hours and why I had to go hunting around back to determine that nothing was being done. He apologized and said that I should come back in a week when they had the right tools.

A week later I returned and, as someone has already mentioned, they said that it would take 2 hours to install and that I would be charged for 2 hours of work. I asked them what the install process was and whether the mechanic had to be in the car at all times. They said of course not; they just kick it off with a button press and then swap to the next disk (or whatever their equivalent was) part-way through. When I mentioned that meant that the mechanic was working on other cars and therefore they were double-billing clients for labor, he turned a bit red and said that he would work out a discount for me. Still, out the door with software and install it was $250 (originally $400 with "normal" labor and the non-discount price for the software upgrade). Pretty frustrating.

kidkotic2001 · 04-30-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ocfoilist

I have an '09 and updated my maps last year to the 2012 version. You have to first purchase it online and then take the code they give you in to the dealer. Then the dealer does the install for you based on their own installation software tools.

When I first took my car in they had it sitting in the back for 2 hours while I waited. I kept checking on it and noticed that it wasn't being worked on and nothing was being installed. So I went to the head mechanic who told me that they were actually missing an installation disk and couldn't do it today. I asked they why in the world they had me waiting in their lobby for 2 hours and why I had to go hunting around back to determine that nothing was being done. He apologized and said that I should come back in a week when they had the right tools.

A week later I returned and, as someone has already mentioned, they said that it would take 2 hours to install and that I would be charged for 2 hours of work. I asked them what the install process was and whether the mechanic had to be in the car at all times. They said of course not; they just kick it off with a button press and then swap to the next disk (or whatever their equivalent was) part-way through. When I mentioned that meant that the mechanic was working on other cars and therefore they were double-billing clients for labor, he turned a bit red and said that he would work out a discount for me. Still, out the door with software and install it was $250 (originally $400 with "normal" labor and the non-discount price for the software upgrade). Pretty frustrating.

I guess I will start using google maps on my phone going forward I will not pay 400, 250, 150, not eve 60 bucks to get my Maps upgraded on my Z. It should cost about 30 to 40 bucks. As a matter fact it should be free updates that is a 3k upgrade. Crazy

EgoTrip · 05-01-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001

I guess I will start using google maps on my phone going forward I will not pay 400, 250, 150, not eve 60 bucks to get my Maps upgraded on my Z. It should cost about 30 to 40 bucks. As a matter fact it should be free updates that is a 3k upgrade. Crazy

I completely agree with you. I got my letter from Nissan telling me how lucky I was that they were having a SALE on the map upgrade and I could get it for only $179*. The * points to a note that dealer labor is not included.

Seriously, Nissan? A $2000 NAVI package should include upgrades, at least for the duration of the warranty. That is just lousy customer service.

kk370 · 05-04-2013, 04:50 AM

conclusion...
no one can hack into the navi system and update version...
even though i have map cd..i still cant DIY to install the new map...
its impossible ,,,right?

JARblue · 05-04-2013, 09:08 AM

In a 2009, unfortunately, yes. You'll have to go to the dealer

Leuz · 05-04-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

In a 2009, unfortunately, yes. You'll have to go to the dealer

What about 2010+? Reading this thread has made me sadder and sadder

04-29-2013, 10:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I heard a couple of stories where the dealer charged an extra 2 hours of labor on top of the update cost because that's how long it takes to install the 5 DVDs. The tech spends about 2 minutes per DVD actually working on it (i.e. swapping it out for the next disc) totaling 10 minutes of actual labor __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

04-29-2013, 05:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
ocfoilist Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 202 Drives: 09 Blue 6m 370zT/S/N Rep Power: 16	I have an '09 and updated my maps last year to the 2012 version. You have to first purchase it online and then take the code they give you in to the dealer. Then the dealer does the install for you based on their own installation software tools. When I first took my car in they had it sitting in the back for 2 hours while I waited. I kept checking on it and noticed that it wasn't being worked on and nothing was being installed. So I went to the head mechanic who told me that they were actually missing an installation disk and couldn't do it today. I asked they why in the world they had me waiting in their lobby for 2 hours and why I had to go hunting around back to determine that nothing was being done. He apologized and said that I should come back in a week when they had the right tools. A week later I returned and, as someone has already mentioned, they said that it would take 2 hours to install and that I would be charged for 2 hours of work. I asked them what the install process was and whether the mechanic had to be in the car at all times. They said of course not; they just kick it off with a button press and then swap to the next disk (or whatever their equivalent was) part-way through. When I mentioned that meant that the mechanic was working on other cars and therefore they were double-billing clients for labor, he turned a bit red and said that he would work out a discount for me. Still, out the door with software and install it was $250 (originally $400 with "normal" labor and the non-discount price for the software upgrade). Pretty frustrating. __________________ Proud owner of a new 167.2 inch, 3278 lb baby Z! Stillen CBE & G3 Intake // Stillen Lightweight pulley // Stillen Oil Cooler // Goodridge Braided Stainless Steel Brake Lines // ACT HDSS Clutch& Alum Flywheel

05-04-2013, 09:08 AM	#29 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	In a 2009, unfortunately, yes. You'll have to go to the dealer __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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scottIN Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Castle, Indiana Posts: 764 Drives: '12 370Z Rep Power: 54	Just got the letter myself. Trying to decide if I want to update or not. Honestly, the system isn't that great anyway. I've had a number of places it wouldn't find (but Google Maps did). Kinda crazy using a $3000 system that can't find a house when the free Google Maps on my wife's phone knows where it is.

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kk370 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: taiwan Posts: 33 Drives: 09-370z-white-a7 Rep Power: 13	conclusion... no one can hack into the navi system and update version... even though i have map cd..i still cant DIY to install the new map... its impossible ,,,right?