Nismo = cheese-mo

370z4Steve · 07-20-2009, 05:17 PM

If your going to track your car nismo or not your going to probably do more than just leave it stock (and track it)..whats the big deal?
... this is more about exclusivity/novelty, some extra sales $$ and nothing to do with Nissan building the perfect track car. If you want that purchase something stock and make it into whatever your hearts content is...these and any other cars you can purchase thats street legal from the dealer is a street car plain and simple.

shabarivas · 07-20-2009, 05:17 PM

^ agreed - but all it will take is one or two people to set the precedent - once thats there... companies will cite the case where nissan got owned by some consumers. Its not like nissan is the only company that does this. With that said - there are plenty of dealerships who will not care about your mods etc and will still do warranty work on your car. Besides - go get your oil cooler installed at a dealer and pay the premium and have it covered ...

Robert_Nash · 07-20-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

^ agreed - but all it will take is one or two people to set the precedent - once thats there... companies will cite the case where nissan got owned by some consumers. Its not like nissan is the only company that does this. With that said - there are plenty of dealerships who will not care about your mods etc and will still do warranty work on your car. Besides - go get your oil cooler installed at a dealer and pay the premium and have it covered ...

Keep in mind that the act does NOT apply to anything other than a written warranty; if the dealer doesn't put it in writing it didn't happen.

Modshack · 07-20-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Besides - go get your oil cooler installed at a dealer and pay the premium and have it covered ...

Riddle me this then Batman, as the Warranty thing has been thrown in our face here before. Let's say a dealer decides to install your Stillen Cooler (I think Phimosis is in this category). He's feeling good because his dealer Warrantied the install and Stillen warrantied the part.

Part fails, Toasts engine. Stillen's limit of liability according to their warranty is to replace the defective part. Dealer says NOT OUR PROBLEM, it was not our part. Who pays? You do (for the whole engine)

Installation fails. Any install failure will result in the dealer pointing fingers at Stillen. They're all pre-made parts that just screw together. How "wrong" could it go? Momma Nissan will not support the dealer either way. The dealer did this on his own and the Mother ship is sure not gonna pay a $8-10K repair bill when it was the dealers (or Stillen's) fault. Dealers are independent businessmen...They are NOT Nissan.

See where this is going? Unless you have something in writing from the dealer/Nissan that will cover these circumstanses you're basically SOL no matter how warm and fuzzy you felt after being schmoozed by the service writer who took your money for the work......

travisjb · 07-20-2009, 09:46 PM

Answer:

A) take the oil cooler off and go to a different dealer that doesn't know it was ever installed

... I think this would be above-board if the cause was unrelated to the oil cooler installation.

Also, Nissan dealers have a ~$5K limit for repairs where they can authorize any warranty repair less than or equal to on their own. So pretty much all but an engine replacement, perhaps trannie replacement.

Travis

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Riddle me this then Batman, as the Warranty thing has been thrown in our face here before. Let's say a dealer decides to install your Stillen Cooler (I think Phimosis is in this category). He's feeling good because his dealer Warrantied the install and Stillen warrantied the part.

Part fails, Toasts engine. Stillen's limit of liability according to their warranty is to replace the defective part. Dealer says NOT OUR PROBLEM, it was not our part. Who pays? You do (for the whole engine)

Installation fails. Any install failure will result in the dealer pointing fingers at Stillen. They're all pre-made parts that just screw together. How "wrong" could it go? Momma Nissan will not support the dealer either way. The dealer did this on his own and the Mother ship is sure not gonna pay a $8-10K repair bill when it was the dealers (or Stillen's) fault. Dealers are independent businessmen...They are NOT Nissan.

See where this is going? Unless you have something in writing from the dealer/Nissan that will cover these circumstanses you're basically SOL no matter how warm and fuzzy you felt after being schmoozed by the service writer who took your money for the work......

antennahead · 07-20-2009, 05:55 PM

shabarivas · 07-20-2009, 07:04 PM

Well - if you toasted your engine - pay to have it uninstalled and take that **** in under warranty... lol when it comes to having to spend 8k... lol ill pay the 400 or so to remove the cooler

travisjb · 07-20-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Well - if you toasted your engine - pay to have it uninstalled and take that **** in under warranty... lol when it comes to having to spend 8k... lol ill pay the 400 or so to remove the cooler

Agree... I think I just double-posted this point... sorry... and just a slight correction to your numbers, it costs $10K to replace the engine on this car!

blackbird · 07-20-2009, 08:49 PM

I read about the NISMO 370Z and saw that weight was added. Since I liked the fact that the Z was lighter than my Infiniti G35 Coupe and my '93 30ZX TT and the nose looks JC Whitney, I had no interest. People under 40 may not know JC Whitney and that's a good thing. I read about the NISMO handling and did get the NISMO springs, shocks and sway bars. Really like the difference. Was unthrilled with he rest. SB has the right way to go, for me, with Stillen intake, headers, HFC, oil cooler plus lighter flywheel, under pulley and OZ 18lb Wheels. Already have exhaust. The Sports brakes work very nicely thank you.

juan05 · 07-20-2009, 10:23 PM

just wondering how big of a chances is that the stillen cooler or the nissan cooler will destroy your engine?

RCZ · 07-20-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05

just wondering how big of a chances is that the stillen cooler or the nissan cooler will destroy your engine?

I dont know travis? how big?

travisjb · 07-20-2009, 11:29 PM

really really small, if you use a qualified installer... and go ahead and check their work anyways!... and oh by the way, if you ever see an oil light, PULL OVER... FAST

glad I can laugh about it at this point! wasn't true a few months ago

bucketman · 07-20-2009, 11:56 PM

Okay, maybe it's time to throw my two cents in. I just took delivery of my 370z nismo. I like it a lot. The car I have been driving is an 03 350z track model. The 350 had full nismo suspension, stillen exhaust,nismo cai, kintex intake, 19 inch rays lmgt4's, etc.. Yes you can build a custom car for the same or cheaper than the nismo, but as an overall package this car is a good value. Will I modify this car,sure. But until then I have a warranty without question.
Everyone talks about buying aftermarket parts and ending up with a better car for cheaper but no one talks about cost to install these items. Time is money. I wrench my own car(after warranty) but still installing these things takes time. Is the body ricer? Maybe to much for some. I wish the rear wing was smaller, but really like the lines of the front and sides, especially in black(my fav). I have tracked my 350 at various venues and it was a joy. I have a feeling that the nismo will be just as much fun. The oil cooler is an issue for all of us and I have been hammering away at a resolution. I have a nissan motorsports part # now, but am waiting on price and availabilty. I too wish this car had more HP(400 would be the magic number) but alas this is what we were given. My price for the car with destination charges was 38,500 plus TTL. So beat me up flame me or whatever, but for my two cents, this is a great car

Pushing_Tin · 07-21-2009, 12:39 AM

The NISMO isn't my cup of tea, but I still like it, it's still a Z! Congrats on the new car, post of some pics and join the other discussions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucketman

Okay, maybe it's time to throw my two cents in. I just took delivery of my 370z nismo. I like it a lot. The car I have been driving is an 03 350z track model. The 350 had full nismo suspension, stillen exhaust,nismo cai, kintex intake, 19 inch rays lmgt4's, etc.. Yes you can build a custom car for the same or cheaper than the nismo, but as an overall package this car is a good value. Will I modify this car,sure. But until then I have a warranty without question.
Everyone talks about buying aftermarket parts and ending up with a better car for cheaper but no one talks about cost to install these items. Time is money. I wrench my own car(after warranty) but still installing these things takes time. Is the body ricer? Maybe to much for some. I wish the rear wing was smaller, but really like the lines of the front and sides, especially in black(my fav). I have tracked my 350 at various venues and it was a joy. I have a feeling that the nismo will be just as much fun. The oil cooler is an issue for all of us and I have been hammering away at a resolution. I have a nissan motorsports part # now, but am waiting on price and availabilty. I too wish this car had more HP(400 would be the magic number) but alas this is what we were given. My price for the car with destination charges was 38,500 plus TTL. So beat me up flame me or whatever, but for my two cents, this is a great car

GingaBreadMan · 07-21-2009, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucketman

Okay, maybe it's time to throw my two cents in. I just took delivery of my 370z nismo. I like it a lot. The car I have been driving is an 03 350z track model. The 350 had full nismo suspension, stillen exhaust,nismo cai, kintex intake, 19 inch rays lmgt4's, etc.. Yes you can build a custom car for the same or cheaper than the nismo, but as an overall package this car is a good value. Will I modify this car,sure. But until then I have a warranty without question.
Everyone talks about buying aftermarket parts and ending up with a better car for cheaper but no one talks about cost to install these items. Time is money. I wrench my own car(after warranty) but still installing these things takes time. Is the body ricer? Maybe to much for some. I wish the rear wing was smaller, but really like the lines of the front and sides, especially in black(my fav). I have tracked my 350 at various venues and it was a joy. I have a feeling that the nismo will be just as much fun. The oil cooler is an issue for all of us and I have been hammering away at a resolution. I have a nissan motorsports part # now, but am waiting on price and availabilty. I too wish this car had more HP(400 would be the magic number) but alas this is what we were given. My price for the car with destination charges was 38,500 plus TTL. So beat me up flame me or whatever, but for my two cents, this is a great car

Wow at that price I would have bought the Nismo as well. Damn u got a great deal. I think the Nismo is a steal If u can get it at that price. Congrats

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	really really small, if you use a qualified installer... and go ahead and check their work anyways!... and oh by the way, if you ever see an oil light, PULL OVER... FAST glad I can laugh about it at this point! wasn't true a few months ago __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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07-20-2009, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
370z4Steve Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: west Posts: 231 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 673	If your going to track your car nismo or not your going to probably do more than just leave it stock (and track it)..whats the big deal? ... this is more about exclusivity/novelty, some extra sales $$ and nothing to do with Nissan building the perfect track car. If you want that purchase something stock and make it into whatever your hearts content is...these and any other cars you can purchase thats street legal from the dealer is a street car plain and simple.

07-20-2009, 05:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 915	^ agreed - but all it will take is one or two people to set the precedent - once thats there... companies will cite the case where nissan got owned by some consumers. Its not like nissan is the only company that does this. With that said - there are plenty of dealerships who will not care about your mods etc and will still do warranty work on your car. Besides - go get your oil cooler installed at a dealer and pay the premium and have it covered ...

07-20-2009, 05:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
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07-20-2009, 07:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 915	Well - if you toasted your engine - pay to have it uninstalled and take that **** in under warranty... lol when it comes to having to spend 8k... lol ill pay the 400 or so to remove the cooler

07-20-2009, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
blackbird Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 179 Drives: 09 370Z BLk GTM TT Rep Power: 17	I read about the NISMO 370Z and saw that weight was added. Since I liked the fact that the Z was lighter than my Infiniti G35 Coupe and my '93 30ZX TT and the nose looks JC Whitney, I had no interest. People under 40 may not know JC Whitney and that's a good thing. I read about the NISMO handling and did get the NISMO springs, shocks and sway bars. Really like the difference. Was unthrilled with he rest. SB has the right way to go, for me, with Stillen intake, headers, HFC, oil cooler plus lighter flywheel, under pulley and OZ 18lb Wheels. Already have exhaust. The Sports brakes work very nicely thank you.

07-20-2009, 10:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
juan05 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: west palm beach Posts: 372 Drives: nismo 370z black. Rep Power: 17	just wondering how big of a chances is that the stillen cooler or the nissan cooler will destroy your engine?

07-20-2009, 11:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
bucketman Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Prairieville,LA Posts: 306 Drives: 09 Nismo 370Z MB Rep Power: 17	Okay, maybe it's time to throw my two cents in. I just took delivery of my 370z nismo. I like it a lot. The car I have been driving is an 03 350z track model. The 350 had full nismo suspension, stillen exhaust,nismo cai, kintex intake, 19 inch rays lmgt4's, etc.. Yes you can build a custom car for the same or cheaper than the nismo, but as an overall package this car is a good value. Will I modify this car,sure. But until then I have a warranty without question. Everyone talks about buying aftermarket parts and ending up with a better car for cheaper but no one talks about cost to install these items. Time is money. I wrench my own car(after warranty) but still installing these things takes time. Is the body ricer? Maybe to much for some. I wish the rear wing was smaller, but really like the lines of the front and sides, especially in black(my fav). I have tracked my 350 at various venues and it was a joy. I have a feeling that the nismo will be just as much fun. The oil cooler is an issue for all of us and I have been hammering away at a resolution. I have a nissan motorsports part # now, but am waiting on price and availabilty. I too wish this car had more HP(400 would be the magic number) but alas this is what we were given. My price for the car with destination charges was 38,500 plus TTL. So beat me up flame me or whatever, but for my two cents, this is a great car