How many of you Auto Drivers drive with two feet?

Hotrodz · 02-23-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I can dribble and shoot a basketball quite competently considering I am right handed and generally not ambidextrous. However, I got that way with lots of practice. I have not practiced left foot braking much at all, and in my experience I am awful at it. I'm sure there are people that are just naturally ambidextrous at most activities, but I'm not talking about them. Generally speaking, being good at one ambidextrous thing does not make one good at multiple ambidextrous things.

I am in complete agreement with LunaZ. All I was saying is that if you have the gift of dexterity, your learning curve maybe less. That said I didn't learn to dribble a basketball or hit left handed over night. I practices my a$$ off and I hit over .300 while I was at Cal Poly Pomona. This is no different than what the auto cross driver posted earlier. He became proficient and the result are he wins events.

I'm not arguing for or against left foot braking. I'm just saying it can be done proficiently by some and for most everyone else, heed the warning statement on commercials "do not try this at home...professional driver on board."

Zenmaster · 02-19-2013, 08:53 PM

Driving auto with two feet?
Driving auto?
what are you a girl or something?

b1adesofcha0s · 02-19-2013, 08:58 PM

I've heard of people slamming their foot on the dead pedal in an auto trying to press the clutch pedal, but never driving an auto with 2 feet. I can see the benefits of it on the track. Like with a lot of things, I think it comes down to execution more than anything else. The better option is the one you feel more comfortable with. If you can do both effectively, then just do what you feel like doing.

Personally the only time I ever use both feet in my auto is when I'm launching at the drag strip. Other than that it's just the right foot for me.

Hotrodz · 02-19-2013, 09:27 PM

No argument from me. I'm just saying you gotta have skills for either.

CDepp · 02-19-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

No argument from me. I'm just saying you gotta have skills for either.

I agree. It takes conditioning to drive, at all, with coordination and what not.

I can toe and heel as it's become second nature over the years of parking lot drifting and SCCA open track runs. And, I've driven the Z with a 1/4" of ice on the car and enough coming down to lock the windshield wipers with almost bald tires and in the snow on Potenza's. But, left foot braking, after seeing my brother use it and trying it myself, scares the living crapola (that's fancy Spanish) outta me.

nmjaxx9 · 02-20-2013, 04:28 PM

1 foot pedal to the metal 24/7.

kenchan · 02-20-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CDepp

And, I've driven the Z with a 1/4" of ice on the car and enough coming down to lock the windshield wipers with almost bald tires and in the snow on Potenza's.

are you idiotta? (is that how you say it?)

LunaZ · 02-20-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CDepp

I agree. It takes conditioning to drive, at all, with coordination and what not.

I can toe and heel as it's become second nature over the years of parking lot drifting and SCCA open track runs. And, I've driven the Z with a 1/4" of ice on the car and enough coming down to lock the windshield wipers with almost bald tires and in the snow on Potenza's. But, left foot braking, after seeing my brother use it and trying it myself, scares the living crapola (that's fancy Spanish) outta me.

If you're going to cite SCCA experience, left foot braking is totally an autocrosser technique, especially in a FWD car.
I have ProSolo medals to prove that it works.

I've won events in both a GS ITR and and a CP Miata braking with my left foot.

CDepp · 02-20-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

If you're going to cite SCCA experience, left foot braking is totally an autocrosser technique, especially in a FWD car.
I have ProSolo medals to prove that it works.

I've won events in both a GS ITR and and a CP Miata braking with my left foot.

Yes, it is common for autocross in AT FWD cars.... on race tracks. I'm arguing that toe and heel and left-foot braking are nothing similar for many reasons: the desired result, the application, and the technique. The only thing they share is that both would require practice, just like driving at all.
The citation of SCCA and off-road drift experience was to explain where one would apply toe and heel appropriately. I also used that to explain that while I can perform the maneuver, and I would drive in ice storms and snow on bald tires in the Z, left foot braking in traffic still scares the crap out of me.

Side story:
I've never used an AT for solo courses, and the only FWD I used was at the drags and it was a MT as well. I'm not knocking left-foot braking as a racing technique. I'm knocking it as a technique for drivers just beginning and for some experienced road drivers who would panic in an emergency situation.

Congrats on your wins!

LunaZ · 02-22-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CDepp

Yes, it is common for autocross in AT FWD cars.... on race tracks. I'm arguing that toe and heel and left-foot braking are nothing similar for many reasons: the desired result, the application, and the technique. The only thing they share is that both would require practice, just like driving at all.
The citation of SCCA and off-road drift experience was to explain where one would apply toe and heel appropriately. I also used that to explain that while I can perform the maneuver, and I would drive in ice storms and snow on bald tires in the Z, left foot braking in traffic still scares the crap out of me.

Side story:
I've never used an AT for solo courses, and the only FWD I used was at the drags and it was a MT as well. I'm not knocking left-foot braking as a racing technique. I'm knocking it as a technique for drivers just beginning and for some experienced road drivers who would panic in an emergency situation.

Congrats on your wins!

I don't think the ITR came in auto.

FlawlessZ · 02-20-2013, 05:20 PM

I did this once, well long story short, first car I ever drove (dad's tundra, I was 13). After I parked perfectly, my dad simply said "I better never see you driving with two feet again." Well all I thought to myself was, if its not a Manual! hahaha

Airwalk · 02-22-2013, 08:47 AM

Can't remember what video I was watching on Youtube, but I remember there was a race and the tv screen had a first person view and a view of the drivers feet on screen at the same time. The driver was doing really well as I remember it and was passing cars with using both feet. Fernando Alonso also does the two foot style

ayrton88 · 02-22-2013, 09:23 AM

I'm pretty sure most F1 drivers left foot brake today since the clutch is behind the steering wheel and is only used to get the car moving. They have to trail brake to be fast. That said, I would be willing to bet they don't left foot brake in a road car. Most are from countries that automatics aren't common. I know even though Schumacher and Jean Alesi have modern Ferrari, they both drive original Fiat 500s that are certainly manual. Completely crazy concept to me to left foot brake a road car. Of course I haven't driven an automatic in years.

Airwalk · 02-23-2013, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88

I'm pretty sure most F1 drivers left foot brake today since the clutch is behind the steering wheel and is only used to get the car moving. They have to trail brake to be fast. That said, I would be willing to bet they don't left foot brake in a road car. Most are from countries that automatics aren't common. I know even though Schumacher and Jean Alesi have modern Ferrari, they both drive original Fiat 500s that are certainly manual. Completely crazy concept to me to left foot brake a road car. Of course I haven't driven an automatic in years.

True, my point was just to show that you can drive really well and use two feet although it seems a lot of the time a good amount of people don't.

lhinojos · 02-22-2013, 11:59 AM

Never new people drove automatics with two feet. I have, however, noticed some cars on the freeway with the brake lights on driving faster than me. Now it all makes sense lol

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02-19-2013, 08:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zenmaster Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 68 Drives: 10 370z M6 40th Rep Power: 14	Driving auto with two feet? Driving auto? what are you a girl or something? houkouonchi and CDepp like this.

02-19-2013, 08:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	I've heard of people slamming their foot on the dead pedal in an auto trying to press the clutch pedal, but never driving an auto with 2 feet. I can see the benefits of it on the track. Like with a lot of things, I think it comes down to execution more than anything else. The better option is the one you feel more comfortable with. If you can do both effectively, then just do what you feel like doing. Personally the only time I ever use both feet in my auto is when I'm launching at the drag strip. Other than that it's just the right foot for me. CDepp likes this. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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FlawlessZ Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SoCal 818 Posts: 595 Drives: 12 PW 6MT Rep Power: 15	I did this once, well long story short, first car I ever drove (dad's tundra, I was 13). After I parked perfectly, my dad simply said "I better never see you driving with two feet again." Well all I thought to myself was, if its not a Manual! hahaha __________________ 2012 PW - 6MT \| Meisterschaft CBE w/ ECV \| EVO-R Front Lip \| Enkei SP3-RS JDM Wheels \| Sticky Hankook RS-3's \| Megan Racing Springs \| Hot Shift Knob \| JDM Brake/Fog Light

02-20-2013, 04:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 27	1 foot pedal to the metal 24/7.

02-22-2013, 08:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
Airwalk Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: norristown Posts: 52 Drives: 2009 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 13	Can't remember what video I was watching on Youtube, but I remember there was a race and the tv screen had a first person view and a view of the drivers feet on screen at the same time. The driver was doing really well as I remember it and was passing cars with using both feet. Fernando Alonso also does the two foot style LunaZ likes this.

02-22-2013, 09:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	I'm pretty sure most F1 drivers left foot brake today since the clutch is behind the steering wheel and is only used to get the car moving. They have to trail brake to be fast. That said, I would be willing to bet they don't left foot brake in a road car. Most are from countries that automatics aren't common. I know even though Schumacher and Jean Alesi have modern Ferrari, they both drive original Fiat 500s that are certainly manual. Completely crazy concept to me to left foot brake a road car. Of course I haven't driven an automatic in years. LunaZ likes this.

02-22-2013, 11:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
lhinojos Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 559 Drives: 12 370z GM M6 Rep Power: 15	Never new people drove automatics with two feet. I have, however, noticed some cars on the freeway with the brake lights on driving faster than me. Now it all makes sense lol DEpointfive0 likes this.

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