Dream car as my first MT?

Hookah · 02-01-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

If I'm being unbiased (from my perspective). I got the MT for a few reasons. Nismo doesn't come with anything else, and it's a sports car, so I just automatically assumed to get it. I've driven plenty of manuals so I wasn't expecting anything out of left field.

This MT isn't very good IMO. It's not "bad", but I wouldn't say it's good either. The AT is way, WAY, better for street driving.

Having driven a few MT Nissan's from many different years, and plenty of other MT from other car companies, I think Nissan just sucks at making MT's. Especially second gear... every single MT Nissan I've ever driven has an issue with second. I don't see this in other cars.

Like I said, it's not bad, and once you get used to it, you won't even notice the flaws. But honestly, unless you plan to track it, I would get the AT. Having said that, if I did it all over again, I will still get the Nimso edition and get the MT. So... I don't know what that means :/ guess it makes me a hypocrite.

Interesting, we can't even tell which side you are on

Anyways, as far as I can tell, this isn't about whether AT or MT is better, but about if the OP can pull this off as he thinks this may be his last chance to ever do so. If you don't do it and you get an AT, you will always wonder what a MT sports car was like. I know I personally couldn't live with that feeling

You said something about taking turns in second gear, and yeah, that is normally what I do. First gear is just to get the car going, so if you are doing some regular driving, when you get passed like 5 mph or so, just throw it to 2nd gear.

I moved from a manual corolla, which I only rode for a short amount of time, so there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to do it, specially when you have some experience with MT. Once I got my MT Z, I never looked back even after I drove my friends automatic Z. Driving his Z actually made me even happier I got mine in MT.

isayimandrew · 02-01-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauge

If I'm being unbiased (from my perspective). I got the MT for a few reasons. Nismo doesn't come with anything else, and it's a sports car, so I just automatically assumed to get it. I've driven plenty of manuals so I wasn't expecting anything out of left field.

This MT isn't very good IMO. It's not "bad", but I wouldn't say it's good either. The AT is way, WAY, better for street driving.

Having driven a few MT Nissan's from many different years, and plenty of other MT from other car companies, I think Nissan just sucks at making MT's. Especially second gear... every single MT Nissan I've ever driven has an issue with second. I don't see this in other cars.

Like I said, it's not bad, and once you get used to it, you won't even notice the flaws. But honestly, unless you plan to track it, I would get the AT. Having said that, if I did it all over again, I will still get the Nimso edition and get the MT. So... I don't know what that means :/ guess it makes me a hypocrite.

have you tried driving the 2006-2008 Honda Civic SI? 2nd gear on that sucks worse! Honda even had to do a recall after all these people kept complaining that 1st-2nd gear and 2nd - 3rd would grind almost all the time, even when the clutch was pushed all the way down.

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 11:06 AM

Just buy the MT and drive it. You'll be fine. It's a solid transmission, it's just clunky.

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The z isn't bad but, when people start gassing it up. I can think of 10 better manuals by far...

In a perfect world, all manual transmissions would be identical to the mkIV supra getrag.

xxAGAVExx · 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM

This car was my very first manual. Don't regret it one bit. 1st gear is a little short, but after I installed my intakes it's a lot more fun to drive and I don't mind the short 1st as much since the engine sounds and feels better.

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:25 PM

The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters.

Chuck33079 · 02-01-2013, 01:29 PM

That's a really cool cutaway. Does the Z have a valve in the clutch line to slow down the engagement?

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:34 PM

I don't think so. I don't remember seeing one but it's been forever since I've been under a 370.

Hookah · 02-01-2013, 01:35 PM

Things you can learn in this forum... Always impressive...

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:42 PM

Here is a photo of TR6060 and MT82 (GT500 and 5.0, respectively).

The Z has sort of a hybrid linkage. The good thing about it is that it's directly connected to the transmission, so the engine torquing won't have an effect on the linkage.

On the MT82, the shifter is mounted to the body. With the stock vibration dampening (i.e. soft, compliant) bushings, engine torque can shift the linkage juuuust enough to make the shift action inconsistent under heavy load. The MT82 would have been a great transmission if they left well enough alone and mounted the shifter to the case instead of the car.

And below you will see... perfection! The Aisin unit in the S2000.

m4a1mustang · 02-01-2013, 01:52 PM

While we are at it here is the Corvette. I think this is a C5.

Sorrovv · 02-01-2013, 07:54 PM

OK I can't resist any longer.

I'm inches from buying this 2011 370z 6MT Touring/Sport

Joelito · 02-01-2013, 08:22 PM

Those stripes gotta go though please!

Sorrovv · 02-01-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joelito

Those stripes gotta go though please!

Yes those are going away as soon as possible!

02-01-2013, 11:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Just buy the MT and drive it. You'll be fine. It's a solid transmission, it's just clunky. m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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xxAGAVExx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,037 Drives: 09 370Z BLK M6 Rep Power: 53925	This car was my very first manual. Don't regret it one bit. 1st gear is a little short, but after I installed my intakes it's a lot more fun to drive and I don't mind the short 1st as much since the engine sounds and feels better. __________________ l 09/6MT l BP Twin Turbo Kit l E-85 w/Fuel Return l FI 18" Res CF CBE l Powertrix Ultra-Lite Coilovers l Wavetrac LSD \| Lots of SPL and Carbon Fiber \|

02-01-2013, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The Z shifter is directly connected to the tranny, right? It seems like we keep comparing it to cable shifters. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-01-2013, 01:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	That's a really cool cutaway. Does the Z have a valve in the clutch line to slow down the engagement? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-01-2013, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	I don't think so. I don't remember seeing one but it's been forever since I've been under a 370. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Hookah Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 34 Drives: 03 350z LS 6MT Rep Power: 14	Things you can learn in this forum... Always impressive...

02-01-2013, 01:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Here is a photo of TR6060 and MT82 (GT500 and 5.0, respectively). The Z has sort of a hybrid linkage. The good thing about it is that it's directly connected to the transmission, so the engine torquing won't have an effect on the linkage. On the MT82, the shifter is mounted to the body. With the stock vibration dampening (i.e. soft, compliant) bushings, engine torque can shift the linkage juuuust enough to make the shift action inconsistent under heavy load. The MT82 would have been a great transmission if they left well enough alone and mounted the shifter to the case instead of the car. And below you will see... perfection! The Aisin unit in the S2000. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-01-2013, 01:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	While we are at it here is the Corvette. I think this is a C5. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-01-2013, 08:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
Joelito Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Queens Posts: 120 Drives: 12 370z 6sp Rep Power: 14	Those stripes gotta go though please! Dlm6568 likes this.

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