High Miles Z a bad idea?

DEpointfive0

$21.3 is a rip off

Rawb474

Ok. So...

That car was incredibly clean. Inside and Out. Almost no wear and tear (at least cosmetically) other than a few tiny paint chips on the front bumper from rocks and a little rubbing on the side where your left arm rests. If you were told this car had 70K miles on it, I don't know if you'd believe it.

With that being said...

Almost everyone here has told me to stay clear of this. I haven't really seen any reasons other than resale value, possible AC issues (which my AC did brake in my Civic which has turned out to be a piece...) I know what to look for in terms of the steering lock. Unfortunately, they are an audi dealership so I doubt they'd be able to tell if it's been replaced.

I really wanted a manual, but all I do is city driving so it doesn't really make much sense to me. Has anyone had issues down the line with an AT?

DEpointfive0

If you don't go forced induction... I think the 7AT has less problems overall

JungleZ

Sorry guys but Nissan isn't as reliable as Honda or Toyota, do not get a high mileage Nissan ever

DEpointfive0

bmarcinczyk14

I'd have to disagree, especially with such a extreme as "ever". You don't think Nissan is reliable? I'm pretty sure the Z can easily double the mileage that is already on the car he's looking at, especially if it has been well cared for. OP, honestly don't scare away from the car just because it has 70k miles, which IMO isn't even that high, maybe for the year it is though. You stated you looked at it and everything on the car seems solid. Get it inspected by one of the certified techs if it hasn't already been and try to talk them down in price, which you should be able to fairly easily since it has higher than average mileage for the year. Being a automatic would be a deal breaker right away for me, but that's me.

Cmike2780

For the most part, that way of thinking is outdated and isn't that simple. It's a relic of an era when cars had low safety standards and manufacturers had little repercussions for selling a sub-par product.

You also need to first define how something is considered reliable and go by each model year specifically. I'm sure there are plenty of cars in Toyota and Honda's portfolio that are less reliable than others...the same goes for Nissan. My dad's 98 Maxima, bought new for example, had close to 122k miles and was still running strong before we sold it about a year ago. Aside from fixing normal stuff that wear out, she was plenty reliable. By the same token, I had a 92 v6 Camry with a blown engine at 120k miles. The interior was still in really great shape and all the electronics still worked though, but it was just a useless piece of metal at that point. Before that, I had an 89 Civic that had every body panel rusting out, parts falling off and making noises...but that frikin' motor refused to die. It's up to the owner to keep a car reliable and it's up to the owner to decide what part is considered a wear item vs an unreliable part.

I guess my point is, manufacturer reliability ratings rely heavily on opinions, not facts. The same goes for re-sale values. If a part was not well made to begin with, they usually need replacement early in the ownership and usally get covered under warranty anyways. Given that the average car ownership is 6 years, it fair to say just about any new car today will last that long mechanically at a minimum. That wasn't always true, which is why there was once a great emphasis on reliability ratings.

I just think people have a higher standard these days because we're living in a world where returning a piece of electronic device because it's not perfect is normal. That's fine for an iPod, not so simple when it's an entire car. There are literally thousands of things that can go wrong and I think for the most part, just about every manufacturer these days is on the right track at making all modern cars "reliable." The problem is, people want more creature comforts in their cars, which means more stuff to go wrong. It's silly to label an entire car lineup unreliable because of a broken stereo, but for some people, that's enough to label it a POS. Most new cars made these days a better made, regardless of manufacturer.

...except maybe cars from China.

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Spikuh

What a load of horseshit. I still dd a '91 240sx with almost 250k miles on it. I estimate I still have another 20k on the 1st transmission, and maybe 3k on the 2nd clutch before they finally go. Engine runs just fine with no dead spots although I need to replace the fuel injectors and fuel pump.

My grandfather still drives an older model Nissan truck with over 300k on the clock. The speedo doesn't read correct anymore, but besides that, nothing is wrong with it.

Nissans are JUST as reliable as other manufacturers, you just have to not be a putz when it comes to routine maintenance.

70k isn't high mileage and hasn't been since probably the 80's or 90's. People who dump a well maintained vehicle after 70k because they think it has too many miles or that they can't get good resale for it are brain dead morons and should take a intro to finance class because they obviously do not understand money.

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JungleZ

Ya like I said Nissan is a joke compared to Nissan and Toyota when it comes to reliability and bs issues. Nissan is the best bang for your buck but they cheap out in so many ways why do you think the resale value on all toyotas and Hondas is almost always better than Nissan.

And lets not ever forget what a pain in the butt the dam 300zx was to work on with cramped engine bays galore

bmarcinczyk14

What, would you rather have a car that accelerates on it's own? cough toyota cough

DEpointfive0

Hey, that wasn't Toyota's problem, that was the pedal manufacturers problem...
Pontiac had the same issue too

And the guy who had the prius that stated that whole thing was lying



Oh, and I BET the ENGINE on the 370Z the OP was talking about will last to double to 140k, but I bet not a damn think else will without giving some sort of headache...
I don't know a hell of a lot about Hondas from first hand experience... I know my dad had one that he sold to a family friend and it's at 300,000kms with no oil changes, lol (the guy just adds oil)

But I can't find anything wrong with any of our JAPANESE MADE Toyotas... My 370Z... Going in for another smattering of problems (I will admit, MOST are bullshít panel squeaks and buttons on the radio not working and such, but the transmission is acting up)

bmarcinczyk14

Pretty sure it became their problem when they had to recall thousands of cars and lost millions of dollars on it. Regardless, I think Nissan's are more reliable then you give them credit for. Would you not agree they are more reliable than the average domestic car or Kia? And you want to talk about cars with reliability issues, try owning any VW/Audi. I love those cars to death, but not enough to pay for labor costs and deal with shi*t breaking everywhere.

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DEpointfive0

Fair enough, I think the Nazi sleds are GARBAGE too, don't get me wrong. But in terms or Japanese reliability it's Lexus, Toyota, Acura, Honda, I'd give the next few to Subaru then Mitsubishi, THEN Nissan...

ImportConvert

I've had sports cars with 150K+ miles on them have more issues than sports cars with 75K miles on them. I used to never buy new cars, so I have some experience with it, and basically, it comes down to this: How was it treated, and more importantly...are you lucky? Some cars just break, while the next one down the assy. like will never need anything but tires and a new battery.

AK370Z

One thing I always tell people "never buy a used sports car. Whoever bought it in the first place, had need for speed." But that not always true. Sometimes people buy it just to look cool or don't ever track it or anything.

As for buying 70K sport car, you should def. check it out. See how it is and drive it. My Z just rolled over 66k and seriously, it drives like brand new. It had redline synthetic oil every 5500 miles (religiously changed despite the weather conditions outside), transmission, brake and differential fluids changed regularly, outside detailed and waxed with Adams polishes, inside is immaculate as I have every single detailing stuff you can think of etc. My Z as a used probably drives better than many 20-30K Z out there. So it's all in the "how it was taken care of" really.

I personally think nissan makes very reliable engines. My brother Infinity I35 (vq egnine) holding up very well even after 130K of abuse, my old 350Z vq held up very well. HOWEVER unfortunately, Nissan's biggest weakness is the transmission. We all know how many tranny we went though with our 350zs. Luckily, still no issue with my first gen SRM equipped transmission in my 370Z. but it's def. weakest point.

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