[Official] What's the Best Radar Detector?

DEpointfive0

Can we add a poll to this thread???

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Z1NONLY

LEO's do not need to get your speed on any device to pull you over, and I would venture to say that 10 seconds with no reading is probable cause to suspect a jammer.

But the legality of the jammer is not the issue. It's the fact that these devices can be defeated. (Once the LEO understands what they are up against.)

When I was on radardetector.net, we had a LEO join the community and his first thread was about how silly we were for wasting our money on jammers that didn't work. In his mind none of them worked.

My response was "Thanks for the information officer".

But a few geniuses in the community took it upon themselves to meet up with him and do some testing. They were so happy when he had to "eat crow" and admit they worked.....

Then he started experimenting and before too long, he figured out how to spot, and defeat jammers. Then he trained his coworkers.

Now there is a section of Texas, where a jammer is useless all because some in the community had to convince LE that they were being beaten.


They have more money, more toys, and they get paid to do this with their time.

Once stealth is lost, we lose.

Oh, and unless you have some James Bond retractable setup, (That's prone to alignment issues) they don't need to enter the car to locate the jammers.

Ubetit

I put the Waze app on my iphone. Way cheaper and more reliable than the V1 I owned

SurfDog

...If you live in an area of active Wazers. I have a gold crown...and 90% of the traps I encounter are unreported because its mostly just me up there.

Here are my "countermeasures"
1.9500xi or ci depending on the car (with stealthy use and behaviors)

2.Waze app (works better during rush hour and increased traffic)

3. Area knowledge the LEOs have their favorite hiding spots and are essentially lazy and uncreative. (they have no need as revenues are very high regardless)

4.rabbits and preceding driver brake lights. (really one of the best measures there is unless the LEOs are really well hidden... they don't usually bother as it takes to much time away from harvesting citizens)

5.intuition (spider sense?)

6.luck (just saying)

7.knowledge and polite use the U.S. constitution. (I figure the government doesn't really seem to have any use for it, so I might as well get some mileage out of its dying moments...)

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MX52Z

So how did he defeat the jammers?

Z1NONLY

That particular incident prompted many in the community to break off and form a new one. (radardetectorforum.org) The primary focus of this forum is to help people use countermeasures without broadcasting info that LEO's may find useful.

There are three primary ways to defeat jammers.

After experimenting with many others in the countermeasure community, one of the weaknesses can be overcome with crazy installation methods and extra $$$ and the second weakness could only be overcome by companies that make the jammers, and the cost to consumers would probably tripple what they are now. (And do nothing about the first method)

Since there is no easy "fix" for the consumer, the only people who have anything to gain from spelling out the weak points are LEO's.


The third is to simply change gun programming/puls rates etc. But that is just a cat/mouse game between LIDAR makers and Jammer makers that keeps changing. -Not really a "weakness".



But trust me. We are not invincible.

It's best to "defeat" our adversary without them even knowing there has been a contest, much less that they just lost.


*edit* just saw you are in port charlotte.

We have an autocross this weekend in Ft Myers! You should come out.

http://www.gulfcoastautocrossers.com/

edconline

Oh and by spelling them all out on here, the cops that read this forum daily will go out and implement all the changes immediately thus rendering all of our jammers useless, I get it.....





As I head back out to do 250km/h down Anthony Henday Drive.

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MX52Z

Understood, thanks. I just wonder, in Florida where there are no front plates, if laser is effective. Also, I hear a lot that once you've picked up laser on your detector, it's game over but wouldn't a detector pick up some stray laser bouncing here and there thereby givingvyou some warning that laser is being used in the vicinity at least?

Mitco39

Think of laser as the cop using a laser pointer to get your speed. Now for a radar detector to pick it up that beam is going to have to be pretty close to the location of the head on the radar detector. But if it gets close enough the detector will go off, but like you said by then its to late.

Now think of a car infront of you and the cop shooting laser. The chances are very slim that any part of the beam will bounce off the car in the exact direction you need for your radar detector to pick it up. That beind said if the cop has bad aim or hits the car just right in front it is possible.

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Z1NONLY

^This.

The V1 is by far the best at picking up "scatter" but even then, I would put your chances at getting a laser "save" under 5%.

kenchan

V1 > escort

reason:
arrows from the 1980's
no cruising cars from behind triggering laser
reminds me of KITT

Mitco39

V1 < Escort

Only for the reason of the Escort to lock out signals. Mine stays quiet unless either a sign was moved (they use K band) or there is a cop around.

I do wish it had the arrows though.

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Z1NONLY

It depends on application.

I run a 9500ix in my work van because of the GPS filter. The V1 in my Z for the arrows, response time, and ramp up. It's also a more snsitive on everything but 35.5...then it's close. In addition to the V1, I also run an STi-R in the Z for the best range possible on Ka.


Not to mention the stuff in the other two cars set up because my wife not only hates false alrts, but doesn't even want noise for real alerts. (Set her up with blink red lights between the tach/speedo.)

kenchan

the hell, mitco. i said V1> Escort!!

SurfDog

Look at the veil (a non reflective coating for plates) website for awesome links on how LADAR works.

With a good LADAR jammer (or veil) you can make it difficult for the LEO to get your speed so you will get a few seconds of laser alert before the cop has your speed. that means you have a few seconds to make any required adjustments. I can count on 10 seconds using 9500ix. (I usually turn it off though well before then)

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