I think I'm Shifting Wrong

DEpointfive0

OP said this was his first MT

lemon-fresh

Wasn't talking about the op.

DEpointfive0

Lol, I kinda agree with your point anyways, but I still don't like the manual on the 370Z


I have no idea why they made the clutch pedal feel so linear... I like heavy clutches, but this isn't heavy, just lifeless...

lemon-fresh

Fair, I'd like to stick with manuals for as long as possible since I'm pretty sure we will be seeing a lot less of them in the near future.

irondoc

Pretty sure we are seeing less of MT's now - can only get worse. But I loathe auto's.
re: traction control: With my '13 with the Stillen SC (395 whp) I noticed the traction control kicking in constantly under hard acceleration. With the control disengaged I have found that I modulate the power better with my foot, the car is MUCH faster, with only very controllable wheel spin. Seems the nanny is over protective, and the traction control seems to restrict engine power - you can actually feel the hesitation every time the light comes on.
For those of you who track your cars - Are 0-60 times generally helped or hindered by traction control?
No doubt inexperienced drivers will be safer in all conditions with the switch "on" and all of us are safer with the switch "on" in inclement conditions.

MJB

DEpointfive, I think we all get that you don't like the manual tranny in our cars... since you kinda mention it in like every post... can you please explain this lifeless clutch feeling.. because I have no idea what you are talking about.

Have you ever owned a manual Z or is this just based off of a test drive?

Our Z's have a lot of pedal travel, high engagement point, I'll give it that. But in all the Z cars I've owned I've always had a nice, smooth shifting gearbox, and never any problems with the clutch. Not sure why so many people say its hard to drive???

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DEpointfive0

I'm ok with long pedal travel, never owned a manual Z, Mini Cooper John S Works whateverthehell, that pedal travel was decently long too, and I have put a few thousand miles on a Scion xB MT

With the Scion the clutch engagement point is VERY obvious because the pedal feel isn't linear at all, it's very 2 stage.

The Mini has a stiff clutch pedal (compared to the xB and the Z) and the engagement point is also quite high, but you can feel when it's engaging, it pushes your foot off the clutch that last inch

The Z, the several time I drove it... Felt awkward, and I KNOW I'm not the only one, so I don't know why you're pointing me out specifically... But the travel feels so linear that it just has no real feel to me... (Hence the reason why so many people opt for the different clutch helper spring and whatnot)
I guess you could say the learning curve is high on it compared to any other car I have driven. At the same time I guess it's more raw, (unlike the Audi R8 M/T which feels unstallable)

forza370z

Hmmm... I do have the feeling my foot being pushed harder when it reaches the engagement point in my Z. Maybe my foot is extra sensitive then the rest of the world? I've drove VW GTI before, the pedal feels even softer and more linear. Anybody here with me?

DEpointfive0

Never driven one, so I don't know, although I think it'd be a fun car to drive

Haboob

I get more feedback from this clutch pedal than I did with my SRT (and it feels heavier), however, the SRT's clutch engaged almost at the very bottom, whilst this is at the very top - I still haven't gotten used to it 100% and feel a little jerky when shifting (not sure if it's always going to be like that. ), but it's usually 1-2, 2-3... I'm fairly smooth otherwise.

But for me, different shoes have different feels too and that affects me.

scope22

I felft the same way untill i got a new clutch spring.