Sometime's the grass isn't greener (Camaro V6 Comparison)

Red__Zed · 11-15-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Well suck in comparison to the V8 model or the Z. Sure for the price its a good buy but 323hp in a 3780lbs car doesnt turn me on. The SS is in the same price range as a Z and is 426hp in a 3860lbs car. It has more hp but also about 500lbs over the Z so I feel like its a better run as I wont even consider a base camaro if he revs at me. (which they do a lot)

Same thing for the mustang V6 which is 305hp in a 3501lbs car. In order to push a chassis that heavy you need some power imo.

I can't speak for the Camaro, but the V6 stang moves pretty good. Track times are nothing to sneeze at, and it does well around on AutoX course.

When you consider they are going for ~50% less than the Z it makes it pretty hard to draw any sort of meaningful comparison between the two. I mean heck, a sport package Z stickers north of 35K these days. The new V6 stang sits in a price range lower than the base WRX, alongside cars like the Civic SI. You wind up with the V6 variants positioned against the Z the way the Z is positioned against the Cayman...would you rather have the nice one...or two of the cheap ones?

lemon-fresh · 11-15-2012, 10:43 AM

No matter how hard you try to sell it, it's still the crappier mustang of the bunch (v6). Which with mustangs is saying a lot. I think it'll take another good generation or two before that car finally starts losing the hate and the ford zealot fact checkers get their retribution.

Also didn't realize this thread was about mustangs...

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

No matter how hard you try to sell it, it's still the crappier mustang of the bunch (v6). Which with mustangs is saying a lot.

By Z fanboy standards, sure.

lemon-fresh · 11-15-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

By Z fanboy standards, sure.

Mostly by people who are into European/Japanese cars and live outside the US. The ford fanboys try and sell the car one way and everybody else still thinks of it the old way.

Agreed on the s2000/frs/brz front. Every summer I get so close to just impulse buying a used s2000 convertible.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2012, 10:06 AM

They go pretty well and can run 12s with bolt ons. They really wake up when you tune them for 93.

(I'm taking about the V6 Mustang... I know nothing about the V6 Camaro)

NYBladeZ · 11-15-2012, 10:44 AM

For the price of a v6 Camaro or Mustang I'd rather get an FR-S. Yes the straight line speed is no where near the Chevy or Stang but:

1 - FR-S turns more heads
2 - It is a way better initial tuning platform with a very strong and growing aftermarket
3 - it was designed to be a driver's car not an entry level car that leaves a lot on the table
4 - Willing to bet that the manual gearbox in an FR-S > v6 camaro, mustang and the Z

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

For the price of a v6 Camaro or Mustang I'd rather get an FR-S. Yes the straight line speed is no where near the Chevy or Stang but:

1 - FR-S turns more heads
2 - It is a way better initial tuning platform with a very strong and growing aftermarket
3 - it was designed to be a driver's car not an entry level car that leaves a lot on the table
4 - Willing to bet that the manual gearbox in an FR-S > v6 camaro, mustang and the Z

I would probably choose the FRS/BRZ over the V6 Mustang/Camaro as well. But then again I have an S2000 (and you have the Lotus). Not everyone is willing to drive a tiny car.

NYBladeZ · 11-15-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I would probably choose the FRS/BRZ over the V6 Mustang/Camaro as well. But then again I have an S2000 (and you have the Lotus). Not everyone is willing to drive a tiny car.

You're right, driving little cars does have its disadvantages. I'm sure you can agree though the driving experience more than makes up for it. It is still a pain in the *** to throw my luggage in my friends' cars while we all drive to the same destination haha.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

You're right, driving little cars does have its disadvantages. I'm sure you can agree though the driving experience more than makes up for it. It is still a pain in the *** to throw my luggage in my friends' cars while we all drive to the same destination haha.

You've definitely got it worse as far as space goes. The S2K can work as a DD... the trunk is actually spacious enough for a weekend getaway for two.

Then again, the S2K is a pig compared to your Lotus.

lemon-fresh · 11-15-2012, 11:20 AM

Pretty impressed by anyone that would DD a lotus.

SophiaZ · 11-23-2012, 01:46 PM

For you guys who remember me....I definitely had to chime in on this camaro v6 topic. I would give anything to have my Z back, but that is still not an option yet. But since getting rid of my Z almost a year ago, I bought a 2011 Challenger(v6) and that thing was junk to me. Was way too heavy and I felt like I was driving a stretched out Neon. But I DO have a 2012 camaro (v6) and I love it. Yea the interior isn't all that great but I feel good in it. Still no comparison to the Z tho

Kingbaby · 11-23-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

For you guys who remember me....I definitely had to chime in on this camaro v6 topic. I would give anything to have my Z back, but that is still not an option yet. But since getting rid of my Z almost a year ago, I bought a 2011 Challenger(v6) and that thing was junk to me. Was way too heavy and I felt like I was driving a stretched out Neon. But I DO have a 2012 camaro (v6) and I love it. Yea the interior isn't all that great but I feel good in it. Still no comparison to the Z tho

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Zingston · 03-31-2019, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

For you guys who remember me....I definitely had to chime in on this camaro v6 topic. I would give anything to have my Z back, but that is still not an option yet. But since getting rid of my Z almost a year ago, I bought a 2011 Challenger(v6) and that thing was junk to me. Was way too heavy and I felt like I was driving a stretched out Neon. But I DO have a 2012 camaro (v6) and I love it. Yea the interior isn't all that great but I feel good in it. Still no comparison to the Z tho

Well, get another Z and post here more often!

jchammond · 03-31-2019, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Well, get another Z and post here more often!

You must have been bored, to dig one up 6+ yrs. old

Zingston · 03-31-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

You must have been bored, to dig one up 6+ yrs. old

Ha ha. No digging. Her pic was shown on the random album viewer... she's hot. Thought we'd all agree she should start posting again.

11-15-2012, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 41 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 15	No matter how hard you try to sell it, it's still the crappier mustang of the bunch (v6). Which with mustangs is saying a lot. I think it'll take another good generation or two before that car finally starts losing the hate and the ford zealot fact checkers get their retribution. Also didn't realize this thread was about mustangs... Last edited by lemon-fresh; 11-15-2012 at 10:49 AM.

11-15-2012, 10:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
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NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 22	For the price of a v6 Camaro or Mustang I'd rather get an FR-S. Yes the straight line speed is no where near the Chevy or Stang but: 1 - FR-S turns more heads 2 - It is a way better initial tuning platform with a very strong and growing aftermarket 3 - it was designed to be a driver's car not an entry level car that leaves a lot on the table 4 - Willing to bet that the manual gearbox in an FR-S > v6 camaro, mustang and the Z TheGreatOne and lemon-fresh like this. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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lemon-fresh Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Calgary Age: 41 Posts: 471 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 15	Pretty impressed by anyone that would DD a lotus. m4a1mustang and didymus like this.

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11-23-2012, 01:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
SophiaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,466 Drives: 2020 50th anniv 7AT Rep Power: 6734	For you guys who remember me....I definitely had to chime in on this camaro v6 topic. I would give anything to have my Z back, but that is still not an option yet. But since getting rid of my Z almost a year ago, I bought a 2011 Challenger(v6) and that thing was junk to me. Was way too heavy and I felt like I was driving a stretched out Neon. But I DO have a 2012 camaro (v6) and I love it. Yea the interior isn't all that great but I feel good in it. Still no comparison to the Z tho