CSC failure covered under warranty?

mayday813

I recall reading (I think in this forum but I can't seem to locate the article) that someone made the suggestion that you change the clutch fluid in the clutch master cylinder resovior ever 10k miles or so. Use a baster to remove the fluid and replace with clean fresh DOT3 brake fluid. Press the clutch about ten times (engine stopped) and repeat the process. Change the fluid whenever it starts to discolor.
While it doesn't remove all the fluid, it replaces a majority of the fluid and seems to extend the life of the CSC.
A number of vehicles use a similar design to Nissan's. Dodge Viper is one that comes to mind off hand.

ltullos

I know my day is coming when I have the CSC failure and I already have the ZSP replacement in hand. Would like to hear from DFW folks which dealers agreed to replace under warranty and which ones balked. I have extended 120K mi warranty and am only expecting them to pay for the MC & labor.

simonsun347

Would like to revive the thread. I think I have a CSC failure. 11' with 40K miles, clutch to floor, towed to shop, thought it's clutch fluid boiling, had them put in Z1 SS line and Motul600, bled it, perfectly okay for two weeks, only to jump in to a soft clutch again. Fluid went from max to almost min in under two weeks, had them jack it up and they noticed brake fluid leaking from seal of transmission housing to engine block.

now I have two options, either try to have Nissan dealership inspect it and see if it can be covered under powertrain warranty (5yr/60k) or just have the shop do a Z1 CSC delete kit.

For one, I don't want the dealership to drop tranny only to find out it's not covered and have to back on and waste $600 (it's still driveable now). But also concerned on how long the new one will last. At the same time, I love the possibility of dealership covering everything the replace as least the CSC (my clutch should be fine unless it's covered in fluid).

So what do you guys think? I have a spare beater I can drive around in the meantime so downtime is not a concern.

Thanks for input!!!

firulice

go here. ..ZSpeed Performance Nissan Infinti Performance Parts and OEM
buy a set for 1300 and install at a shop for 5-600. You'll get a reliable setup and be good to go. Or just do the CCS/CMC. I wouldn't put oem back in

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simonsun347

Would you go with HD kit or Z1 delete kit? I have heard both good and bad things on both. I love the idea of Z1 kit on the outside of tranny for future easy access but it needs periodic adjustments. The HD kit seems solid and no maintenance but is still inside housing. any thoughts?

MrAurora

Not for nothing but i still cannot get my ahead around how the csc is integrated into the throwout bearing, inside the transmission, and is not covered under the driveline warrenty ehich clearly states AND ALL INTERNAL COMPONENTS. It's utter nonsense and really dissapointing. Some dumbass mechanical engineer designed a plastic component for the transmission in a sports car (you don't have to be nostradamus to see the future here) and then when it fails to throw your hands up and say "NOT COVERED" - not a transmission part. Yet when you go look up the csc on thier own site you find it under "transmission parts". For the love of god, you don't have to be so obvious when you screw over your customers...

simonsun347

I'm surprised as well on how inconsistent dealership is. This really should be a no-brainer. I'm in salt lake city and I called one Nissan dealership and they said they will not cover CSC, that's only 3yr/36k. I called the same dealership family just a different location they said they have to pull the tranny and if the CSC is manufacturer defect (how in the world do you determine that anyway, seems very subjective to me), then they will cover under powertrain 5yr /60k but they can't promise. Also I'm afraid my SS clutch line would void my warranty because it's "alteration" to existing factory setup even though it's an improvement.

1st

Z1 CSC delete kit and call it a day. If they are willing to do the work under warranty try and negotiate them doing the labor and you buy the delete kit to have them install. Per Nissan tsb is to replace the fluid with gtr i believe dot5 but its not a fix its a patch.

simonsun347

I'm kind of leaning toward the same idea. Just hard to justify almost 2G out of pocket (clutch+flywheel+CSCEK+labor) when there's possibility of dealer covering a new CSC at least which should be good for idk...another 10k miles?

Well that and convincing my girlfriend that I'm doing the right thing. lol

zmanelite

Is this the kit you guys talking about ?

Exedy Racing Stage 1 Clutch and Flywheel Package WHD CSC Option

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simonsun347

Yes that's the one from Zspeed, the HD CSC kit.

The other one I'm considering is the CSC delete kit from Z1 here:

Z1 Clutch Concentric Slave Cylinder (CSC) Elimination Kit

zmanelite

Sweet I'll have to bookmark this for if and when mine gives out

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eastwest2300

why wait to replace it?

I tell you what, it'll be that one time that you're far from home that something happens, then you're REALLY tap dancing.

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simonsun347

That's true. Last time I was stuck at a highway exit with flat clutch. Let me tell you it's the scariest 15 minutes of my life. Finally a cop car came push me through the underpass with his bumper.

still undecided which kit to go with...any thoughts?

eastwest2300

I got on zspeed's website, talked to joe, got the replacement CSC (aftermarket) new southbend stage 2 clutch, and flywheel.. did the whole setup.

I did all of this before my oem CSC failed.. didnt wanna take any chances.

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