Just got back home from test driving another z before I make my decision.

frost · 07-01-2009, 08:28 PM

The skidpad test is impressive, but there's more to handling than road stickiness. I often rely on nurbur numbers to solidify handling.

m4a1mustang · 07-01-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

The skidpad test is impressive, but there's more to handling than road stickiness. I often rely on nurbur numbers to solidify handling.

Nurburgring numbers are overrated.

There are just too many factors that affect the final lap time.

frost · 07-01-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Nurburgring numbers are overrated.

There are just too many factors that affect the final lap time.

I don't think there is a perfect test, but I do believe a combination of nurb numbers and skidpad tests give a better impression than just one test alone.

m4a1mustang · 07-01-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I don't think there is a perfect test, but I do believe a combination of nurb numbers and skidpad tests give a better impression than just one test alone.

Indeed there isn't a perfect test. But I really don't think the Nurburgring tests are really that good. It's more of a marketing thing and people just buy into it. The lap time is never indicative of the car's true performance as too many factors can affect the time. You've got something like 170 corners and none of those test drivers are ever going to be able to click off the perfect lap. They will always be giving up time somewhere.

Say the GTR vs. ZR1 internet wars... it was just ridiculous. I think the numbers published were around 2 or 3 seconds apart which when you think about it is less than 1% difference in time between cars. No one in their right mind would ever look at those two cars and say, "well, it's obvious that Car A is better than Car B."

IMO, you're better suited to put two cars on a much, much smaller track with a mix of low and high speed corners. That way you have the same conditions and only around 10-12 corners or so which will make it much easier to get a 100% lap in. Then you get a more accurate idea of which car is better.

frost · 07-01-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Indeed there isn't a perfect test. But I really don't think the Nurburgring tests are really that good. It's more of a marketing thing and people just buy into it. The lap time is never indicative of the car's true performance as too many factors can affect the time. You've got something like 170 corners and none of those test drivers are ever going to be able to click off the perfect lap. They will always be giving up time somewhere.

Say the GTR vs. ZR1 internet wars... it was just ridiculous. I think the numbers published were around 2 or 3 seconds apart which when you think about it is less than 1% difference in time between cars. No one in their right mind would ever look at those two cars and say, "well, it's obvious that Car A is better than Car B."

IMO, you're better suited to put two cars on a much, much smaller track with a mix of low and high speed corners. That way you have the same conditions and only around 10-12 corners or so which will make it much easier to get a 100% lap in. Then you get a more accurate idea of which car is better.

Don't disagree, there just isn't a "standard" test for it, that goes in all the mags and whatnot, so we have to deal with what we got

cow · 07-01-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

The skidpad test is impressive, but there's more to handling than road stickiness.

I agree with that statement, but the number is indicative of a car that's no slouch in handling.

nogoodname · 07-01-2009, 08:46 PM

this thread matches this pic

frost · 07-01-2009, 08:52 PM

03-04 cobra = only thing that made me care about stangs.
the circa 03 mach 1s were cool, but too underpowered to their f-bod rivals.

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