Buy Used or New?

Davey · 08-07-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777

The car can't be certified if it was in an accident, dealers get audited on each certified car. The way I found out about that was that the auditor had my keys when I came in to test drive and i spoke to him. I got 3.2% on my certified Nismo. 8/120K mile zero deduct and for 2011 only had 8002 miles.

Nope. I'm afraid they absolutely can sell a Certified Used car that has been in an accident. Google it if you don't believe me, and I've seen it happen myself.

Certified used doesn't mean that the car wasn't or could not have been in an accident. It means that if the means they use to check for an accident do not reveal an accident, the car is sold as certified used, and nothing more.

I'm not saying they want to scam you, but I'm saying that it happens, and the guys doing the inspection don't necessarily look for damage beyond "panels appear to be original and nothing on a Carfax."

nmjaxx9 · 08-07-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Nope. I'm afraid they absolutely can sell a Certified Used car that has been in an accident. Google it if you don't believe me, and I've seen it happen myself.

Certified used doesn't mean that the car wasn't or could not have been in an accident. It means that if the means they use to check for an accident do not reveal an accident, the car is sold as certified used, and nothing more.

I'm not saying they want to scam you, but I'm saying that it happens, and the guys doing the inspection don't necessarily look for damage beyond "panels appear to be original and nothing on a Carfax."

all certified used cars also go through a manufacturers inspection based on their specific standards....i would still go certified pre owned over used

kenchan · 08-07-2012, 03:53 PM

yep, the STI hatch i saw over the weekend at a subaru dealer had a 'certified pre-owned' label on it while carfax showed it was in a collision.

i took a close look and could not tell where it was damaged, but i kinda felt

and didn't pull the trigger.

nmjaxx9 · 08-07-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yep, the STI hatch i saw over the weekend at a subaru dealer had a 'certified pre-owned' label on it while carfax showed it was in a collision.

i took a close look and could not tell where it was damaged, but i kinda felt

and didn't pull the trigger.

gettin a hatch ehhh niceee

kenchan · 08-07-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

gettin a hatch ehhh niceee

been searching the last 3 weeks for the one... i am tired.

nmjaxx9 · 08-07-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

been searching the last 3 weeks for the one... i am tired.

hahaha good things come to those who _________

whoady4shoady · 08-07-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yep, the STI hatch i saw over the weekend at a subaru dealer had a 'certified pre-owned' label on it while carfax showed it was in a collision.

i took a close look and could not tell where it was damaged, but i kinda felt

and didn't pull the trigger.

I love the sti hatch. that thing is nice as hell.

Davey · 08-07-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

all certified used cars also go through a manufacturers inspection based on their specific standards....i would still go certified pre owned over used

I would, too! There's not reason to avoid them specifically at all, and they come with other benefits. My point is just that in no way should it be taken as any reassurance you don't need to have an independent mechanic look at it and check it over thoroughly for signs of collision repair.

cossie1600 · 08-07-2012, 05:54 PM

All certified used means they bought the factory extended warranty, I have seen many cars that were in wrecks sold as certified.

Jsolo · 08-07-2012, 09:39 PM

Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

nmjaxx9 · 08-07-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo

Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

granny by day racer by night.

Jsolo · 08-07-2012, 09:59 PM

^^It's like with sportbikes. You got the riders and the posers. The poser's have 2" wide chicken stripes on either side of their rear tires

KaienZ34 · 08-07-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo

Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....

shadoquad · 08-07-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....

Jsolo · 08-07-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....

I couldn't care less. If you drive like a grandpa, get a grandpa car like a buick, not a 370z!

08-07-2012, 03:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	yep, the STI hatch i saw over the weekend at a subaru dealer had a 'certified pre-owned' label on it while carfax showed it was in a collision. i took a close look and could not tell where it was damaged, but i kinda felt and didn't pull the trigger.

08-07-2012, 05:54 PM	#39 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	All certified used means they bought the factory extended warranty, I have seen many cars that were in wrecks sold as certified.

08-07-2012, 09:39 PM	#40 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 14	Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

08-07-2012, 09:59 PM	#42 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 14	^^It's like with sportbikes. You got the riders and the posers. The poser's have 2" wide chicken stripes on either side of their rear tires