Buy Used or New?

Compdoc777 · 08-07-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

No offense but... Unless you are getting a great interest rate or some other side benefit, Certified Used is a waste of time. They don't spend a lot of time on the inspection nor do they really put any more money than absolutely necessary into the car to get it ready for sale. I've even seen cars poorly repaired after wrecks as "certified" that even an amateur like me could see it wasn't right

I mean, if I were buying used I wouldn't shy away from Certified Used but either way, get a trusted mechanic's opinion.

The car can't be certified if it was in an accident, dealers get audited on each certified car. The way I found out about that was that the auditor had my keys when I came in to test drive and i spoke to him. I got 3.2% on my certified Nismo. 8/120K mile zero deduct and for 2011 only had 8002 miles.

falconfixer · 08-07-2012, 09:40 AM

I traded in a 2008 Wrangler Rubicon on my Z. This Jeep I jumped sand dunes in the outskirts of Las Vegas. I ended up blowing out (read broke in half) the rear shocks and the entire inside was filled with sand. My fix was to gut the interior and Herculine the tub. I moved to Anchorage and beat the living hell out of it in the wilds of Alaska. I sunk it up to the middle of the doors in the Chena River on one excursion. I then moved MD where going off road results in execution by firing squad. So I had to trade it in. I went through about a gallon of simple green and a pressure washer inside and out. Rattle canned the undercarriage to hide all the trail damage. Waxed and buffed the exterior as best I could. You name it I did everything I could to hide the abuse. Guess what---the dealership took the Jeep and sold it to someone for almost $24K. I wouldn't pay $10K for it.

Do yourself a favor, buy new. You could get one of my vehicles.

b1adesofcha0s · 08-07-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer

I traded in a 2008 Wrangler Rubicon on my Z. This Jeep I jumped sand dunes in the outskirts of Las Vegas. I ended up blowing out (read broke in half) the rear shocks and the entire inside was filled with sand. My fix was to gut the interior and Herculine the tub. I moved to Anchorage and beat the living hell out of it in the wilds of Alaska. I sunk it up to the middle of the doors in the Chena River on one excursion. I then moved MD where going off road results in execution by firing squad. So I had to trade it in. I went through about a gallon of simple green and a pressure washer inside and out. Rattle canned the undercarriage to hide all the trail damage. Waxed and buffed the exterior as best I could. You name it I did everything I could to hide the abuse. Guess what---the dealership took the Jeep and sold it to someone for almost $24K. I wouldn't pay $10K for it.

Do yourself a favor, buy new. You could get one of my vehicles.

Davey · 08-07-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777

The car can't be certified if it was in an accident, dealers get audited on each certified car. The way I found out about that was that the auditor had my keys when I came in to test drive and i spoke to him. I got 3.2% on my certified Nismo. 8/120K mile zero deduct and for 2011 only had 8002 miles.

Nope. I'm afraid they absolutely can sell a Certified Used car that has been in an accident. Google it if you don't believe me, and I've seen it happen myself.

Certified used doesn't mean that the car wasn't or could not have been in an accident. It means that if the means they use to check for an accident do not reveal an accident, the car is sold as certified used, and nothing more.

I'm not saying they want to scam you, but I'm saying that it happens, and the guys doing the inspection don't necessarily look for damage beyond "panels appear to be original and nothing on a Carfax."

nmjaxx9 · 08-07-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Nope. I'm afraid they absolutely can sell a Certified Used car that has been in an accident. Google it if you don't believe me, and I've seen it happen myself.

Certified used doesn't mean that the car wasn't or could not have been in an accident. It means that if the means they use to check for an accident do not reveal an accident, the car is sold as certified used, and nothing more.

I'm not saying they want to scam you, but I'm saying that it happens, and the guys doing the inspection don't necessarily look for damage beyond "panels appear to be original and nothing on a Carfax."

all certified used cars also go through a manufacturers inspection based on their specific standards....i would still go certified pre owned over used

Davey · 08-07-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9

all certified used cars also go through a manufacturers inspection based on their specific standards....i would still go certified pre owned over used

I would, too! There's not reason to avoid them specifically at all, and they come with other benefits. My point is just that in no way should it be taken as any reassurance you don't need to have an independent mechanic look at it and check it over thoroughly for signs of collision repair.

08-07-2012, 09:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
falconfixer Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: 10aC Posts: 978 Drives: Taco Rep Power: 78	I traded in a 2008 Wrangler Rubicon on my Z. This Jeep I jumped sand dunes in the outskirts of Las Vegas. I ended up blowing out (read broke in half) the rear shocks and the entire inside was filled with sand. My fix was to gut the interior and Herculine the tub. I moved to Anchorage and beat the living hell out of it in the wilds of Alaska. I sunk it up to the middle of the doors in the Chena River on one excursion. I then moved MD where going off road results in execution by firing squad. So I had to trade it in. I went through about a gallon of simple green and a pressure washer inside and out. Rattle canned the undercarriage to hide all the trail damage. Waxed and buffed the exterior as best I could. You name it I did everything I could to hide the abuse. Guess what---the dealership took the Jeep and sold it to someone for almost $24K. I wouldn't pay $10K for it. Do yourself a favor, buy new. You could get one of my vehicles.