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Originally Posted by Akbubba47 Makes no sense unless you are talking about aftermarket parts. The BRZ/FRS top out at 27000 fully loaded whereas the 370z starts near or above 40.

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Old 12-22-2012, 05:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Makes no sense unless you are talking about aftermarket parts. The BRZ/FRS top out at 27000 fully loaded whereas the 370z starts near or above 40.

People bash the car and I bet half of the people who have, haven't driven it. The car is a lot of car for the money. Sure, the interior is the nicest, and it's underpowered, BUT, the price reflects that. The handling of the car is remarkable! The car is easy to kick out, but only on demand, as it corners extremely well. Anyone who has driven a Miata, it feels the same with a lot more room. If they come out with a turbo model, there will be no competition in the rwd market.
The Z starts at 40k now???

He said he paid more for his BRZ than his 370, his 370Z was a base *** model, and I think he got it for $26.5 brand new and the BRZ was 27, I'll have him chime in


Also, I drove the FRS recently... Still hate it, I had more fun driving my ex's Yaris than the FRS

On Top Gear they state that a car begins to become fun at the limit of grip. Which is true... But for $25k, it's also gotta be fast... Which it isn't. With a turbo, sure, but I'm pretty happy with my car as it sits, NA...
I still think the FRS/BRZ is ugly and shíttily made...

Please don't bash, I'm not a Nissan fanboy, I'm a Toyota fanboy, but the FRS/BRZ, no... Just no... Keep it away from me... I'd rather drive a Yaris, or my old Avalon, any day of the week
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The Z starts at 40k now???

He said he paid more for his BRZ than his 370, his 370Z was a base *** model, and I think he got it for $26.5 brand new and the BRZ was 27, I'll have him chime in


Also, I drove the FRS recently... Still hate it, I had more fun driving my ex's Yaris than the FRS

On Top Gear they state that a car begins to become fun at the limit of grip. Which is true... But for $25k, it's also gotta be fast... Which it isn't. With a turbo, sure, but I'm pretty happy with my car as it sits, NA...
I still think the FRS/BRZ is ugly and shíttily made...

Please don't bash, I'm not a Nissan fanboy, I'm a Toyota fanboy, but the FRS/BRZ, no... Just no... Keep it away from me... I'd rather drive a Yaris, or my old Avalon, any day of the week
That's quite a statement! More fun in a Yaris vs. FRS ? Could it just be that you prefer a front-wheel drive layout?

I drove a Vios ( sedan version of Yaris) for a few weeks: I found it to be very "Anti-septic" in character and nausea-inducing in fast, tight corners through Coastal canyons. Not very fun.
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That's quite a statement! More fun in a Yaris vs. FRS ? Could it just be that you prefer a front-wheel drive layout?

I drove a Vios ( sedan version of Yaris) for a few weeks: I found it to be very "Anti-septic" in character and nausea-inducing in fast, tight corners through Coastal canyons. Not very fun.
No, I like the ISF I have and the 370Z plenty.

I took her car out while she was asleep (didn't want to lose my parking space) and damn it was fun driving that POS, didn't brake well, but yeah, I liked driving it a lot, she started to laugh when I told her how fun, but she agreed
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The Z starts at 40k now???

He said he paid more for his BRZ than his 370, his 370Z was a base *** model, and I think he got it for $26.5 brand new and the BRZ was 27, I'll have him chime in


Also, I drove the FRS recently... Still hate it, I had more fun driving my ex's Yaris than the FRS

On Top Gear they state that a car begins to become fun at the limit of grip. Which is true... But for $25k, it's also gotta be fast... Which it isn't. With a turbo, sure, but I'm pretty happy with my car as it sits, NA...
I still think the FRS/BRZ is ugly and shíttily made...

Please don't bash, I'm not a Nissan fanboy, I'm a Toyota fanboy, but the FRS/BRZ, no... Just no... Keep it away from me... I'd rather drive a Yaris, or my old Avalon, any day of the week
Please tell me more about how he got a new Z for 26


Everyone has thier opinions, I can respect that. But now you're pulling numbers out of ur *** lol.
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Please tell me more about how he got a new Z for 26


Everyone has thier opinions, I can respect that. But now you're pulling numbers out of ur *** lol.
How is 33k close to 40k?

And have you never heard of a car selling for 6k under MSRP? Shít happens
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Bunch if fanboiz on this forums.

I bet none of you even driven one. It provides a different experience than the z.

It's more responsive to driver inputs, especially the steering wheel. Go cart like feel

The seats are way more bolstered than the z.

It is slower, but sometimes it isn't about speed. That's why the miata is great.

Would I trade my z for one? No, it's a different beast, I'm a sucker for horsepower and torque.

Would I ever buy one? Yes. For the price nothing new in that range will give you a better driving experience.

Going from that car then hopping into the z, you can quickly feel the weight difference, which is what makes it fun.

It's hard to lose weight but easier to gain horsepower. Once the sti version comes out I'd be glad to switch.

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Bunch if fanboiz on this forums.

I bet none of you even driven one. It provides a different experience than the z.

It's more responsive to driver inputs, especially the steering wheel. Go cart like feel

The seats are way more bolstered than the z.

It is slower, but sometimes it isn't about speed. That's why the miata is great.

Would I trade my z for one? No, it's a different beast, I'm a sucker for horsepower and torque.

Would I ever buy one? Yes. For the price nothing new in that range will give you a better driving experience.

Going from that car then hopping into the z, you can quickly feel the weight difference, which is what makes it fun.

It's hard to lose weight but easier to gain horsepower. Once the sti version comes out I'd be glad to switch.

I've driven it.

Not a fan

Overpriced, plan and simple. Would i get one? Maybe as a DD
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Bunch if fanboiz on this forums.

I bet none of you even driven one. It provides a different experience than the z.

It's more responsive to driver inputs, especially the steering wheel. Go cart like feel

The seats are way more bolstered than the z.

It is slower, but sometimes it isn't about speed. That's why the miata is great.

Would I trade my z for one? No, it's a different beast, I'm a sucker for horsepower and torque.

Would I ever buy one? Yes. For the price nothing new in that range will give you a better driving experience.

Going from that car then hopping into the z, you can quickly feel the weight difference, which is what makes it fun.

It's hard to lose weight but easier to gain horsepower. Once the sti version comes out I'd be glad to switch.
1st: Are you sure you are not the fanboy?
2nd: Again are you sure you have driven one and can actually say it is more responsive? Hell there is a review on here talking about the lack of responsiveness in the frz. The Z's steering is hydro where as the frz is electronic is it not? How do you get realistic feel back into your hands when it is electronic?
3rd: Yes the miata is great, but not so much out the box again when compared to the Z or more exspensive cars that are built with performance in mind from the factory.
4th: Why would I buy something only to have to do MAJOR WARRANTY DENYING MODS to make it really fun to drive?
5th: I do agree with the speculative sti version, but till it hits the streets, we still dont know anything really about it besides specualtion.
6th: I snagged my base sport with 19k on the clock for the same price, so for the price, there is much better options available right now. But then again mine isnt brand new, but I do still have a 7yr 100k bumper to bumper warranty. So with that being said 0k vs 19k miles are irrelevant when you get on a track.
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1st: Are you sure you are not the fanboy?
2nd: Again are you sure you have driven one and can actually say it is more responsive? Hell there is a review on here talking about the lack of responsiveness in the frz. The Z's steering is hydro where as the frz is electronic is it not? How do you get realistic feel back into your hands when it is electronic?
3rd: Yes the miata is great, but not so much out the box again when compared to the Z or more exspensive cars that are built with performance in mind from the factory.
4th: Why would I buy something only to have to do MAJOR WARRANTY DENYING MODS to make it really fun to drive?
5th: I do agree with the speculative sti version, but till it hits the streets, we still dont know anything really about it besides specualtion.
6th: I snagged my base sport with 19k on the clock for the same price, so for the price, there is much better options available right now. But then again mine isnt brand new, but I do still have a 7yr 100k bumper to bumper warranty. So with that being said 0k vs 19k miles are irrelevant when you get on a track.
How am I a fanboy? I'm just opened to options.

Yours is used im talking new for new. In its price range.

My friend has a brz so yes I've driven it plenty of times back to back, and know what they feel like.

The miata is probably one of the best handling cars ever made, you are blinded by your z lol. Just stop talking.
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How am I a fanboy? I'm just opened to options.

Yours is used im talking new for new. In its price range.

My friend has a brz so yes I've driven it plenty of times back to back, and know what they feel like.

The miata is probably one of the best handling cars ever made, you are blinded by your z lol. Just stop talking.
So I guess it beign "NEW" makes it better than? I dont remember being "NEW" made a difference specs or performance wise? The miata is still slow from the factory on a track, whether it is a straight line or curved. And I never said it doesnt "handle" well and I did say it was a great car, I just said it is slow. Falls in the same catagory as the frz. Slow+great handling still = slow.
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So I guess it beign "NEW" makes it better than? I dont remember being "NEW" made a difference specs or performance wise? The miata is still slow from the factory on a track, whether it is a straight line or curved. And I never said it doesnt "handle" well and I did say it was a great car, I just said it is slow. Falls in the same catagory as the frz. Slow+great handling still = slow.

Reading comprehension kills you.

I never once said it was fast.

Reread my damn original post.

I also said I'm a sucker for Hp and torque so my z is here to stay.

What I did say was fast isn't always the definition of fun which is why there's a market for miatas and brz, lotus Elise, mini coopers.

You are blinded by your z and is a fanboy. I'm done arguing.

Again I'm comparing new to new, yet you can't grasp that concept.

Learn to stop paper racing and actually drive those aforementioned cars. They all provide a unique go cart and very responsive handling feel, which is what some people like.

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Why are you comparing a brand new car to a car that is at least 5 years old?
Maybe because you are still getting more for way less?
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Cars with same price with warranty vs cars with same price with warranty is a good comparison. What is the specualtive price out the box for the STI version?
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Btw guys I enjoy my z and would never trade it for a brz. But I won't hate on other great cars. I'm really looking to see what they announce for the STI. Anyways.

If you actually have road time behind a brz then contribute to this thread in a more meaningful way. Too many people paper racing like the guy 2 posts above that hasn't even been behind the wheel of one.
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Btw guys I enjoy my z and would never trade it for a brz. But I won't hate on other great cars. I'm really looking to see what they announce for the STI. Anyways.

If you actually have road time behind a brz then contribute to this thread in a more meaningful way. Too many people paper racing like the guy 2 posts above that hasn't even been behind the wheel of one.
I have test drove one. My local dealer has like 5 just sitting there. They are no where near as fun as the Z. Maybe if I had never driven a RWD car, and that is a big maybe. You want a fun fast gocart experience ride in my integra I have built, it even has basic bolt-ons for the motor, cant speak for the lack of work under the car, but in a straight line I still think its 150whp non-vtec will even outrun it. It even has wider tires than that car Lol. I bought a RWD for the sole purpose of being able to run the back out with just a light press of the throttle, not have to push the car to its limits to get it to break loose some 215's. The z using only odd number gears will still outpreform the frz.


I do agree with the STI version, but that again would be dependt on price. If it is anywhere near the same price as a regular STI, and I was looking for a boosted RWD sports car that is priced similar whether it is new or not I might have to lean towards the Z4 sdrive35i or the 135i m. But looks might steer me towards the STI version out the box though and the fact I can only imagine the aftermarket parts that will flood the market. But then again a 135i m with a JB4 tune is hard to beat both looks and performance.

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