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Nissan 370Z goes from 0 to 60 in 4.7 same as BMW M3

Originally Posted by RCZ Who's talking about price? When did price come into the picture. We are talking about performance. Not to mention the thread title claims that the 370z

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Old 12-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who's talking about price? When did price come into the picture. We are talking about performance. Not to mention the thread title claims that the 370z matches the performance of the M3 therefore using it as a benchmark. Yes its more expensive, yes it is faster. Also has materials that are flawless and the ride is amazing. Comes with a very nice super-high revving super-high tech engine and great weight balance. I mean yes its going to cost more with all the quality and technology on it.

I personally don't think the Z could keep up, thats all. I am far from an M3 fanboy either although I do think its a great car. I think that maybe a 370z vs e46 M3 could be interesting, but don't ask me which one I'd rather be driving on the track.

"So RCZ, why dont you shut up, leave and buy an M3!"

Because the Z is amazing value and it looks pretty damn good. In my opinion better than the e92 M3. Its lighter, smaller and the VQ engine is awesome. It is much less pretentious and loves to be modded. Because parts are cheaper to buy and because installing them will be cheaper. Because I think the M3 has lost it's way a bit from the focused car it used to be and the Z has done the exact opposite. The Z will be an awesome daily driver too, with a new nicer interior and some cool technology to boot. Nice available sound system and navigation, etc, etc.

I mean come on I could keep going, but I think we all know why we are here.
Price has a lot to do with it. Based on your statement you already know. Which was my point, the Z is an amazing value. Maybe it won't keep up with an M3 Ewhatever. But it holds it's own dollar for dollar. Which has been the bench mark for the Z since day one.
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The M3 comparo is off the mark anyway. The comparison should be between the 370Z and M Coupe and Cayman S. If you look at these cars, you get a clearer picture of Nissan's intent: Delivering a 2 seat coupe that has the numbers needed to hang with the focused, German 2 seaters. Take the 0-60 times with a grain of salt, as already suggested. Look at lb/hp, skidpad, and slalom. When you figure the closest direct competitors are 20K+ above the price of the Nissan, you begin to realize it's a steal.

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Here's another thread where the 370Z is compared to a better competitor -- the 135i. Lets hear your thoughts.

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The M3 comparo is off the mark anyway. The comparison should be between the 370Z and M Coupe and Cayman S. If you look at these cars, you get a clearer picture of Nissan's intent: Delivering a 2 seat coupe that has the numbers needed to hang with the focused, German 2 seaters. Take the 0-60 times with a grain of salt, as already suggested. Look at lb/hp, skidpad, and slalom. When you figure the closest direct competitors are 20K+ above the price of the Nissan, you begin to realize it's a steal.

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Good points.. of course.... Actually the BMW M coupe weighs the same as a base model M/T at 3230!!! What I do not understand is how the Z has the 54/46 weight distribution but the BMW has 50/50. That inline 6 is pretty heavy and it's a shorter car. How did BMW get 50/50 or is that just a claim just as Nissan says the Z is a perfect 50/50 with out of corner acceleration...? Any help?

Also, Road and Track's comparo did state the Z matched the Cayman S on the track, staying with it in the twisties. I do not care how fast the new Cayman S is so as long as the Z can stay with it in the twisties. I can mod the Z to be as fast as the Cayman S otherwise; all I need is a few more ponies!!
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The M3 comparo is off the mark anyway. The comparison should be between the 370Z and M Coupe and Cayman S. If you look at these cars, you get a clearer picture of Nissan's intent: Delivering a 2 seat coupe that has the numbers needed to hang with the focused, German 2 seaters. Take the 0-60 times with a grain of salt, as already suggested. Look at lb/hp, skidpad, and slalom. When you figure the closest direct competitors are 20K+ above the price of the Nissan, you begin to realize it's a steal.

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I agree with everything you said, good sir.

Couldn't have said it any better.
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