radar detector users encouraged to read this

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

yes always infinitis!

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:00 PM

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

Please provide a source to where you read this "distance" number you acquired. I can throw out numbers also, but honestly it degrades the discussion. Valentine one does not give a direct range, but they rate they can double the distance of the next best radar (which is the escort 9500ix).

And yes, my V1 has gone off over 1/2 mile out many times.

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Please provide a source to where you read this "distance" number you acquired. I can throw out numbers also, but honestly it degrades the discussion. Valentine one does not give a direct range, but they rate they can double the distance of the next best radar (which is the escort 9500ix).

And yes, my V1 has gone off over 1/2 mile out many times.

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't provide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't prvide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

I think your missing the point of these tools. They are not meant to be you protection but just an aid to help you while you drive. I don't rely on a radar detector; I rely on my eyes/common sense and the radar detector is backup.

Mecinoid · 03-15-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I think your missing the point of these tools. They are not meant to be you protection but just an aid to help you while you drive. I don't rely on a radar detector; I rely on my eyes/common sense and the radar detector is backup.

Well written

I wish they could protect you from a speeding ticket because from time to time I do find myself keep up with the speeding traffic. At those times I'm in more of a risk then others in getting a ticket because of what I'm driving. The 370z does get noticed.

It's funny when I roll past an officer and know that I've been Lidar'd. You can see his smile turn to a frown because he didn't get this exotic that must have been speeding.

Be safe, Be kewl

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't prvide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

Are you referring to the graph?
That graph is about photo (ie red light cameras), if you actually read the article you will find this sentence.

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We tested against conventional radar at a new desert site where the Escort RedLine delivered that world-record 14.17-mile radar-warning range against every type of radar

Are you referring to this episode? MythBusters (2004 season) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:35 PM

What most cops are using in pulse ka or laser which can only be detected about 1/2 mile away or less, that 14 mile reading was probably an old style instant on radar, which could be detected 3 miles away even with cheap $50 detectors and if you look youtube video they posted its a commercial, take it at its value with all the adds for boner pills, weight and hair loss treatments out there.

Its really hard to deny the results the Myth Busters got a few years ago, can you provide independent test data that reputes, their findings.

Heres another link to a guy that tested some of the detectors read what he had to say. http://www.bendover.com/gmtquestion....=5&fldAuto=304

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750

What most cops are using in pulse ka or laser which can only be detected about 1/2 mile away or less, that 14 mile reading was probably an old style instant on radar, which could be detected 3 miles away even with cheap $50 detectors and if you look youtube video they posted its a commercial, take it at its value with all the adds for boner pills, weight and hair loss treatments out there.

Its really hard to deny the results the Myth Busters got a few years ago, can you provide independent test data that reputes, their findings.

So you are referring to the link I provided to the MythBusters episode?

03-15-2012, 03:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it. This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" . In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car. Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed. Last edited by gsxr750; 03-15-2012 at 03:02 PM.

03-15-2012, 03:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	What most cops are using in pulse ka or laser which can only be detected about 1/2 mile away or less, that 14 mile reading was probably an old style instant on radar, which could be detected 3 miles away even with cheap $50 detectors and if you look youtube video they posted its a commercial, take it at its value with all the adds for boner pills, weight and hair loss treatments out there. Its really hard to deny the results the Myth Busters got a few years ago, can you provide independent test data that reputes, their findings. Heres another link to a guy that tested some of the detectors read what he had to say. http://www.bendover.com/gmtquestion....=5&fldAuto=304 Last edited by gsxr750; 03-15-2012 at 03:41 PM.

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