radar detector users encouraged to read this

roplusbee · 03-14-2012, 10:26 PM

I take it Vaughanbe13 hasn't been through the peoples republic of VA (DC, MD, PA, etc). All of the previously mentioned tactics are in play in those states. I am from Baltimore and I have seen the signs for "speed limit enforced by aircraft" in VA, the camera/pulse radar van in MD, the lines on the road in my grandmother's neighborhood and other areas along the east coast, and the friendly neighborhood state trooper hanging out in the middle of the highway pointing at folks to pull over. It is very real and if you do not have some good tech AND good sense, you will pay the fines! I mean if you are in a ZERO stoplight town, you maybe relatively safe, but in a city..............riiiiiiight!

MacCool · 03-14-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13

I feel like you guys are trolling. This isn't real, is it?!?!?

You're kidding. State law enforcement agences use aircraft for speed enforcement all the time, and have been since the 50's. All they need is a Cessna, a stopwatch, and known distance lines (painted on, or temporary) on the highway.

McNasty · 03-15-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Radar and laser dectors are really just junk electronic gagets. Currently none of them really work.

Radar detectors 25-30 yrs ago did help drivers and give them time to slow down, but with the advent of pulsed radar, K band and now laser & radar hand held instant on units. The cops will nail you every time.

Best way to avoid the tickets is to not speed to much over the speed limit, most cops will tolerate 5 mph over the limit, but start at 7-14mph over the cop will usually ticket you.

You have to rememeber that cops are really salesmen for the court system, the only reason for issueing speeding tickets is to generate revenue.

Recently there was a very informative example of how the cops around las vegas and california border set up speed traps on the SPEED CHANNEL. The cops described themselves as setting up like NAZI UBOATS in wolfpacks. One cop will clock the speeders and they will have 4-6 chash cars to go after them. In Nevada I see the cops setting up this trap all the time and often , they will have a cop stationed on a bridge overlooking the highway and having the case cars on the on ramps, where the on coming drivers never really see them till its to late.

Other tactic cops use is the stalking method, where they come up from behind you, slowly tailing you waiting for you to do someting wrong or speed up and turn on they radar or laser units for older models, that is why its always good to keep checking whats in your rear view mirror. Keeping an eye out for a MOVER or someone closing really fast on you from a far distance.

I ******* HAAAAATTTEEE the wolfpack in North Vegas. one cop sits on an overpass with the gun (not in a car and you cant see his bike) and clocks people and then theres usually 6 to 10 bike cops on the entrance ramp on the other side of the overpass just waiting to zap you. its sooo dirty because you cant see them at all until theyre in your rearview and you've already been clocked.

ImportConvert · 03-15-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by McNasty

I ******* HAAAAATTTEEE the wolfpack in North Vegas. one cop sits on an overpass with the gun (not in a car and you cant see his bike) and clocks people and then theres usually 6 to 10 bike cops on the entrance ramp on the other side of the overpass just waiting to zap you. its sooo dirty because you cant see them at all until theyre in your rearview and you've already been clocked.

Do they use LIDAR or radar?

RiCharlie · 03-15-2012, 11:44 AM

Maybe if the speed limits were more reasonable...they were set at 65 back in the 50s..,maybe even sooner...someone may know ...but really they were set for a different time and place

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 02:27 PM

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:30 PM

You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique.

No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique.

No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

yes always infinitis!

ccdominic · 03-15-2012, 02:45 PM

we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second.

as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.

vividracing · 03-15-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

... sort of like just buying a sports car makes you an instant race car driver you mean?

Just one word: WOW...

Seems like you're offended... maybe you didn't read the rest of my post?

03-14-2012, 10:26 PM	#46 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	I take it Vaughanbe13 hasn't been through the peoples republic of VA (DC, MD, PA, etc). All of the previously mentioned tactics are in play in those states. I am from Baltimore and I have seen the signs for "speed limit enforced by aircraft" in VA, the camera/pulse radar van in MD, the lines on the road in my grandmother's neighborhood and other areas along the east coast, and the friendly neighborhood state trooper hanging out in the middle of the highway pointing at folks to pull over. It is very real and if you do not have some good tech AND good sense, you will pay the fines! I mean if you are in a ZERO stoplight town, you maybe relatively safe, but in a city..............riiiiiiight! __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

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RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 15	Maybe if the speed limits were more reasonable...they were set at 65 back in the 50s..,maybe even sooner...someone may know ...but really they were set for a different time and place

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gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late. The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun. Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you. As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures. Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

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ccdominic Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 615 Drives: Built LS1/T56 RX7 FD Rep Power: 14	we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second. as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.