radar detector users encouraged to read this

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

yes always infinitis!

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:00 PM

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

Please provide a source to where you read this "distance" number you acquired. I can throw out numbers also, but honestly it degrades the discussion. Valentine one does not give a direct range, but they rate they can double the distance of the next best radar (which is the escort 9500ix).

And yes, my V1 has gone off over 1/2 mile out many times.

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Please provide a source to where you read this "distance" number you acquired. I can throw out numbers also, but honestly it degrades the discussion. Valentine one does not give a direct range, but they rate they can double the distance of the next best radar (which is the escort 9500ix).

And yes, my V1 has gone off over 1/2 mile out many times.

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't provide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't prvide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

I think your missing the point of these tools. They are not meant to be you protection but just an aid to help you while you drive. I don't rely on a radar detector; I rely on my eyes/common sense and the radar detector is backup.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't prvide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

Are you referring to the graph?
That graph is about photo (ie red light cameras), if you actually read the article you will find this sentence.

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We tested against conventional radar at a new desert site where the Escort RedLine delivered that world-record 14.17-mile radar-warning range against every type of radar

Are you referring to this episode? MythBusters (2004 season) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it. This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" . In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car. Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed. Last edited by gsxr750; 03-15-2012 at 03:02 PM.

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