radar detector users encouraged to read this

Pauly · 03-14-2012, 08:26 PM

yea it would seem like it would be hard to prove in court. but when its your word against a law officer's in front of a judge, you never really get a fair shake lol. eh, ill just keep it to a 5 over max and try not to draw attention to myself!

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-14-2012, 08:34 PM

Its so funny that our police can't recover our cars when they are stolen. When they break into your home? There is no budget to get prints to see if they can identify the thief. Domestic violence goes uncharged most of the time... They can't solve 90% of most ID theft even though there's a paper trail... human trafficking is a rampant problem and our little girls and sisters are being kidnapped and raped and taken for prrostition and these cases go unsolved... but our police can write the fk out of a ticket though. Million dollar aircaft. Multi million dollar camera systems?????. yeah ok. Its the biggest joke going. Police are profit mongers for politicians needing a fat pocket.

When I see them solving REAL CRIMES and "Truely Protecting" our citizens I will salute every police car I see... Its easier to write summonses and get paid than it is to solve true crime. They don't get promoted for solving cases. They get promoted for writing tickets.

Thechidz · 03-14-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Its so funny that our police can't recover our cars when they are stolen. When they break into your home? There is no budget to get prints to see if they can identify the thief. Domestic violence goes uncharged most of the time... They can't solve 90% of most ID theft even though there's a paper trail... human trafficking is a rampant problem and our little girls and sisters are being kidnapped and raped and taken for prrostition and these cases go unsolved... but our police can write the fk out of a ticket though. Million dollar aircaft. Multi million dollar camera systems?????. yeah ok. Its the biggest joke going. Police are profit mongers for politicians needing a fat pocket.

When I see them solving REAL CRIMES and "Truely Protecting" our citizens I will salute every police car I see... Its easier to write summonses and get paid than it is to solve true crime. They don't get promoted for solving cases. They get promoted for writing tickets.

repped

roplusbee · 03-14-2012, 10:26 PM

I take it Vaughanbe13 hasn't been through the peoples republic of VA (DC, MD, PA, etc). All of the previously mentioned tactics are in play in those states. I am from Baltimore and I have seen the signs for "speed limit enforced by aircraft" in VA, the camera/pulse radar van in MD, the lines on the road in my grandmother's neighborhood and other areas along the east coast, and the friendly neighborhood state trooper hanging out in the middle of the highway pointing at folks to pull over. It is very real and if you do not have some good tech AND good sense, you will pay the fines! I mean if you are in a ZERO stoplight town, you maybe relatively safe, but in a city..............riiiiiiight!

RiCharlie · 03-15-2012, 11:44 AM

Maybe if the speed limits were more reasonable...they were set at 65 back in the 50s..,maybe even sooner...someone may know ...but really they were set for a different time and place

gsxr750 · 03-15-2012, 02:27 PM

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:30 PM

You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique.

No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that.

ZMan8 · 03-15-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique.

No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that.

ccdominic · 03-15-2012, 02:45 PM

we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second.

as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.

vividracing · 03-15-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

... sort of like just buying a sports car makes you an instant race car driver you mean?

Just one word: WOW...

Seems like you're offended... maybe you didn't read the rest of my post?

theDreamer · 03-15-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ccdominic

we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second.

as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.

With good radar detectors you get rebounds that occur, meaning they hit the car at the top of the hill and a few rebounds happen and someone behind might pick it up. With more modern laser technology there is much less, also because they aim for your front plate instead of any part of the car.

03-14-2012, 10:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 24	I take it Vaughanbe13 hasn't been through the peoples republic of VA (DC, MD, PA, etc). All of the previously mentioned tactics are in play in those states. I am from Baltimore and I have seen the signs for "speed limit enforced by aircraft" in VA, the camera/pulse radar van in MD, the lines on the road in my grandmother's neighborhood and other areas along the east coast, and the friendly neighborhood state trooper hanging out in the middle of the highway pointing at folks to pull over. It is very real and if you do not have some good tech AND good sense, you will pay the fines! I mean if you are in a ZERO stoplight town, you maybe relatively safe, but in a city..............riiiiiiight! __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique. No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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03-14-2012, 08:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pauly Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lafayette, La Posts: 645 Drives: and parks Rep Power: 16	yea it would seem like it would be hard to prove in court. but when its your word against a law officer's in front of a judge, you never really get a fair shake lol. eh, ill just keep it to a 5 over max and try not to draw attention to myself!

03-14-2012, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Its so funny that our police can't recover our cars when they are stolen. When they break into your home? There is no budget to get prints to see if they can identify the thief. Domestic violence goes uncharged most of the time... They can't solve 90% of most ID theft even though there's a paper trail... human trafficking is a rampant problem and our little girls and sisters are being kidnapped and raped and taken for prrostition and these cases go unsolved... but our police can write the fk out of a ticket though. Million dollar aircaft. Multi million dollar camera systems?????. yeah ok. Its the biggest joke going. Police are profit mongers for politicians needing a fat pocket. When I see them solving REAL CRIMES and "Truely Protecting" our citizens I will salute every police car I see... Its easier to write summonses and get paid than it is to solve true crime. They don't get promoted for solving cases. They get promoted for writing tickets.

03-15-2012, 11:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 17	Maybe if the speed limits were more reasonable...they were set at 65 back in the 50s..,maybe even sooner...someone may know ...but really they were set for a different time and place

03-15-2012, 02:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 15	The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late. The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun. Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you. As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures. Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

03-15-2012, 02:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
ccdominic Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 615 Drives: Built LS1/T56 RX7 FD Rep Power: 16	we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second. as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.